Worthless Bums
i only got a black primer which i am learning was probably a mistake
ah well
i have not cleared my table yet or made a wet palette, but i will prolly paint this weekend
poorly xD
none of the army painter brushes came with caps, and the detail brush has bent bristles
hrm
actually one of them did: the kolinsky masterclass
also it's triangle shaped so easy to hold, and doesn't roll
brain: "you don't actually need to paint the minis to play the game solo"
me: "shut up brain"
also apparently i accidentally got an airbrush primer but imma brush it on
it'll be fiiiiiine
Nora went first so she could experience the full brunt of my mistakes lololol
Also holy shit that super mutant hound was such a pita because it's so low to the base
i also jacked up my brush getting the primer in every nook and cranny
my inexpertise with thinning aside, i think i need a smaller brush and/or need to learn how to repair bent bristles >.>
i feel like i might need to go back and recoat some minis/sections
hilariously my phone acts as a good magnifier for details
i got black paint (not the primer) to mix, but not white
fucking why bums lolololol
i don't think i need it, i got all the colors i /really/ need for most of what i have now
but just... why
exception being if the blues i got don't match the vault suit blue. I GUESS I WILL SEE
i figured out why
there's no white vallejo paint on the store i bought it from
weirdly even tho the coat of thinned primer on the power armor guy showed the gray underneath it turned out to be perfectly black coated after it dried
like it's basically indistinguishable from nora who i did first with absolutely no thinning
my understanding of thinning is you want the paint (or primer) to be a certain consistency or thinness to coat <whatever>, but also it /should/ be partially opaque?
like layering is also a reason to thin? the primer bottle itself mentions you can use it with or without thinning
possibly i am misunderstanding something here 🤔
anyway this is a learning experience so i tried a variety of ways to get that fucking primer into hard to reach nooks and crannies
WE'LL SEE HOW EACH TURNS OUT
painters: "you want to shade and highlight your minis for maximum looking cool"
me: "what if i install actual lights in the bases of the minis"
look all i'm saying is i've now seen a lot of "glowing" energy weapons and while they look cool they do not look like they're glowing
we can change this
we have the technology
like yes i could paint glowing power armor eyes
or
i could hollow out the head and jam an led in there
also what about my pip-boys
MY PIP-BOYS
might be too small tbh xD
i like this eonsofbattle guy
infectious enthusiasm
do people slap their paint on cardboard or something to see the actual color when it dries
is that a thing, or is this just a waste of paint lol
also: i think i underestimated how much primer it takes to coat all those minis
i didn't waste very much at all (left on the palette) and still
make sure to get different primer colors next time i order too xD
this dude has like over 100 painting videos in a playlist
lololol good for you man
but i do not have the patience for that i'd rather make a buncha mistakes yeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww xD
it's so cute
Chibis DESTROY 40k's Grimdark?
not many people play the fallout warfare game lol
one channel seems to have a bunch of battle reports tho
also like: why is moving units in 40k the worst thing i have ever seen
holy shit i know i'm a computer game guy but this is exactly why. measuring out every unit movement distance with a ruler must be maddening
also like, just a ton of keeping track of random crap
scoring every turn with multiple objectives etc
why does it lean so heavily into all the stuff physical games suck at and computer games excel at
me: *not even painted one mini yet*
also me: "i should build a fallout 4 radio that i can trigger to play sound effects and atmospheric music"
not really interested in getting into warhammer, but the space nuns and orcs (orks lololol) are kinda neat
feel like they'd be fun to paint
but also super mutants are basically orcs
not feeling the giant ass mechs they have
first they're not mini at all ololol
also most of them look real boxy and like they were definitely not designed by engineers
also regarding space marines: a lot of them have arm position variants, but not legs?
the space nuns have both???
and it would look so much better if you have a dozen of those units if you can change up their stances
also the games workshop site is terrible to navigate unless you know exactly what you're looking for
and are only looking for that one thing
changing the filters just fucking collapses everything and you basically gotta start all over again
incredibly newbie hostile
i like the idea of a dice tower
maybe not a tower, but a box or container or something, to roll dice into
i've seen two games played out now where people just roll on the battlefield and knock shit over
bruh what lol
WHY
you spend all this effort bringing out your silly ass tape measurer moving units precisely then knock them over rolling dice
fucking why
do you paint figures or bases first
i don't like the idea of assembly much, but starting to see the advantages lol
i never actually played vampire the masquerade but i feel like their novels could be good
(i need to throw away books not obtain more books)
Keith Evans
Kale Yes, it is.
The novels are... good, but have a large serving of 90s edge on top of the cheesecake of their story.
Victoria Ash is a shit character who should be staked out in the sun.
The clan novels are an interesting way of telling a vast number of stories over several books, but they get muddied along the way, and there are some which need to be marked as 'no resolutions here'.
gamedev.lgbt/@psilocervine@worthlessbums I mean most mini painters are usually paying $100, not $200
the general rule is "if you pay more than 50% of retail you just got ripped off"
@worthlessbums depends on the model but if you're just doing a standard nothing base then bluetack your model to the base to start with, then detach it when you're done with the model, dip the base into sand or flock, and then glue them to it.
I mean I don't do that because I'm an impatient git and a weirdo who does fancy bases but yeah... base after model unless its part of the models decoration.
@worthlessbums my group use trays with felt.
Stops them being fucking loud. Helps to smooth things out.
@worthlessbums reasonable.
I'm more about the fucking things not bouncing off the table.
(Also, let's get these onto a tray. Ok. Nice.)
@worthlessbums The orks or the space marines?
Old ork dreadnaughts are fuckin ace
@worthlessbums As for 'boxy', yeah, that was the Space Marine vehicle aesthetic.
Boxy dreads 4eva (well, actually, no, they ostensibly just cancelled them)
@DarkestKale space marine mechs yeah
also a lot of the non-space marine vehicles of other factions are kinda boxy looking too
@worthlessbums in-universe, what they have is what they *have*.
The tech for designing/making stuff like Dreads is... gone. The imperium is relying on STLs (standardised manufacturing plants they sometimes find, but often end up fucking up) and don't have many - so there's a reason the designs mostly stayed.
- elder scrolls/warhammer
@DarkestKale bethesda seems very reluctant to fuck with the elder scrolls formula
very open to absolutely fucking with fallout
@worthlessbums Let's remember, though, Morrowind was a fucking fever dream of a setting - so that *is* fucking with it.
But ultimately, yeah. Calcify right over the moneypot.
@DarkestKale imo morrowind really is the start of the current/modern elder scrolls world, like how fo3 was a fairly clean break from fo1/2
i love daggerfall but that is way more generic high fantasy and mechanically very different
@worthlessbums You're my expert on this, so I give you reign on this discussion.
But my point is: they *did* fuck with it, but have calcified.
Because that's what IP's do - they either wither off or they calcify over the money.
@DarkestKale i guess my overarching point is mechanically very little changed from morrowind to oblivion to skyrim. if you get An Elder Scrolls Game you are hit with all the big fantasy tropes and mechanics morrowind had
sure you can't leap across skyrim by cheesing alchemy like in mw, but the bones are still there
@DarkestKale whereas in fallout every installation is giving you different core mechanics but keeping the aesthetic/setting flavor of the older games
the only thing that's really stayed vaguely the same between 3->4 is vats, and 76 completely gutted that due to real time multiplayer reasons
@worthlessbums Look at fucking Diablo.
Diablo 1: Kill Leoric, the Butcher, and Diablo.
Diablo 2: Kill Leoric, the Butcher, and Diablo, and then... Baal, and...
Diablo 3: You are not gonna fuckin' believe this, mate... go kill Leoric, the Butcher, Diablo, Baal, and...
Diablo 4's preview: HAHAHA YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE BUTCHER?
Star Wars 1: Kill the Death Star
Star Wars 2: eh
Star Wars 3: Hey, uh, let's kill the Death Star again?
...
Star Wars 7: you guys love Death Stars, right?
Star Wars 9: What if we took the Death Star, but made A BUNCH OF SHIPS be Death Stars?
@worthlessbums Sleek and smooth was the Eldar design stuff. Look up their Wraithwalkers, wraithguard, etc
Imperium stuff is meant to look basic, clunky, a bit brutalist to juxtapose it.
@worthlessbums Also, you have to remember that it's like watching Monty Python: you're used to all the stuff that's come later and been inspired by this, so it looks primitive and a bit awful.
At the time - and in the vacuum it sort of resided in - well, holy shit, it was cool.
@worthlessbums Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy is dry and a bit boring - but only because we're so used to all the jokes being flogged out, and all the stuff that's riffed off it, built off it, etc.
Fallout, for instance, takes a lot of influence from Paranoia.
Played Paranoia the other night and something came up and I was like 'that's a Fallout reference', and got told 'no, Fallout stole that from Paranoia'. etc.
@DarkestKale i have no idea what paranoia is lol
i only found out a while back old movie references fo3 made in one of their giant ant quests
@worthlessbums Paranoia's an older roleplaying game that's VERY PvP.
You get 6 clones, and playing it (for the first time) last night, I went through five of them.
@DarkestKale @ThreeOhFour i mean i just paid the price listed on their store
no shipping or tax lololol