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Casey NewtonEvery day is like "starting tomorrow only people who post ‘Elon is cool' will be eligible to have their tweets appear in English" and the entire press corps and all of my friends continue to post there like nothing has changed
Sarah Hendrica Bickerton 🏳️@caseynewton Honestly I'm expecting him to soon charge for the ability to not follow him.
Coach Pāṇini ®@sarahhbickerton @caseynewton If had charged for the ability to troll himself, they’d be a profitable company lining up bankers to IPO, again
Locksmith@paninid @sarahhbickerton @caseynewton And they still thank him for all the good things he is doing to make the world a better place.
@locksmithprime @sarahhbickerton @caseynewton I listened to a 3-hour Twitter Spaces sometime in early Dec ‘22 hosted by a bunch of sycophants. My takeaway: the fanbois have a deep, internalized dislike for themselves, and it manifests in their worldview, idols, and rhetoric.
@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote@sarahhbickerton @caseynewton lol do not put those kind of violent ideas out into the universe
Swagpuss McG@caseynewton
Sunk cost fallacy on his and their parts.
Sunk cost fallacy on his and their parts.
FediThing has moved!This might be part of it, yes. They have built up a large amount of followers, and Musk now controls their access to those followers, so at some level they feel they are now owned by Musk.
The media used to talk directly to their followers on their own infrastructure. They can still do that today, as outlets like @TexasObserver have shown, but it takes some time and effort.
Guessing that parts of the media are too lazy to make an effort though, hence stories that are straight from press releases. But they don't have to be, they have options.
Mike Masnick ✅@caseynewton I understand the people who feel they need to post there for work and stuff. And I *kinda* understand people who are just lazy and feel like getting set up here is too much work. But... uh... yeah. Don't understand the people who insist nothing has changed and just keep keeping on.
@mmasnick we can do better as a society!
@caseynewton i keep telling people that on twitter, and they keep telling me to shut up.
Half Cocked Law@mmasnick @caseynewton I'd be OK with those people staying on Twitter. The lack of vitriol here has done wonders for my stress levels.
Kim
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Brian Helman@halfcocked @mmasnick @caseynewton
Mastodon and Reddit feel like social media for adults.
Of course that theory is also blown apart by me being on both.
undead enby of the apocalypse@enby_of_the_apocalypse @caseynewton @halfcocked @mmasnick
I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, but my reddit experience is that they are subject specific and people tend to stick to the subjects.
@caseynewton @mmasnick @BrianHelman @halfcocked I’ve spent way too much time on Reddit and my conclusion is that Reddit is where all sorts of annoying and childish people tend to gather
Jeroen Baert@mmasnick @caseynewton I just read someone commenting on the birdsite that "no other network" has a tab like "following" and I just wanted to ... grrr
John Gordon@mmasnick @caseynewton They are committed now. So don’t waste your time.
Bill Seitz@mmasnick @caseynewton the new Clinger Party
Oblomov@mmasnick @caseynewton I mean, it's quite obvious we can't. These last 3 years have been extremely telling in this regard.
Grassroots Joe@mmasnick @caseynewton
I'm starting to work on getting local Indivisible groups in PA to create Mastodon accounts and ask their Party and elected officials to do the same.
If we can get activists and electeds to use Mastodon, we will make it much easier for journalists to move as well.
There are seemingly legitimate reasons to stay on Twitter, until there are not.
Scott, present & accounted for@joeinwynnewood @mmasnick @caseynewton I think many journalists still avoid Mastodon because it doesn’t have a robust search capability.
Catherine is not complacent@scottspeaking @joeinwynnewood @mmasnick @caseynewton I think many journalists avoid it because they don’t get the 50k follower swagger .
@CatDragon @scottspeaking @mmasnick @caseynewton Unless they fork over $ to Musk their Twitter swagger will rather quickly turn into a stagger as far as actual view of their posts go.
It certainly won't hurt to urge those we (used to) follow on Twitter to put a flag down in the Fediverse and get to work on building their following here.
It certainly won't hurt to urge those we (used to) follow on Twitter to put a flag down in the Fediverse and get to work on building their following here.
Chris Pirillo@mmasnick @caseynewton ...there hasn't been a culture shift. Hasn't impacted their day-to-day. They won't see a difference or care enough even if minor changes take hold. It's the whole boiling frog metaphor.
Ben 
@mmasnick There's a middle position that I'm in. I mostly follow and rarely post on social platforms. So if journalists, comedians, etc are still over there, then what I'm left with is a fairly barren Masto timeline. I'd love to switch, but I'm the audience rather than the performer.
cat static 🇺🇸🇺🇦@bhammerslag @mmasnick https://nitter.net/about is great for that. Twitter content without visiting Twitter.
Virginia MurrEven if you never post on Twitter, you're a performer. The platform needs eyeballs for metrics ... the metrics people like journos, etc. insist they have to stay on Twitter for ... no matter how monstrous the person who profits (Musk) becomes.
You are the eyeballs--part of the metrics enhancing the reason for others to stay.
Alan Gamrican@mmasnick @caseynewton
Sadly, we can't force people to leave an abusive relationship.
They must exercise their own free will to break free of the Cordyceps birdshiteota.
Sadly, we can't force people to leave an abusive relationship.
They must exercise their own free will to break free of the Cordyceps birdshiteota.
provisionalidea@mmasnick @caseynewton it’s a pain in the ass as a tech person because so many other tech people are still there and it serves a useful network purpose
but it is getting worse every day
Arvid E. Picciani@mmasnick @caseynewton but nothing has changed if you're a white dude posting Nazi memes.
dango🍡
@caseynewton considering I only ever open "for you" tab because of the dark patterns in the twitter mobile app... I really don't care if he makes it useless
(pressing home when you're at the top of the timeline opens "for you" after a recent update)
Nish@caseynewton I think people don't feel able to move?
In my non-profit workspaces, they've spent a lot of time thinking how to promote ourselves as an organisation and unfortunately because people are still on Twitter the move to spaces like this seems extra work that we can't afford because its returns aren't valuable enough.
Developing a following and curating a community takes a long time and energy.
Jim Lewallen@caseynewton ... and the band played on.
Eric Jennings@caseynewton yeah. It’s frustrating how many of the Twitter communities I enjoyed being part of just will not even consider moving. They somehow just manage to ignore the Elon drama and pretend nothing’s different.
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈@caseynewton it really is too much to ask some people not to go to a Nazi bar just to be seen, even a tiny little gesture like that is too much for them. 🤷♂️
Eddie the Bulldog@caseynewton if media can’t call a site a propaganda tool and stop feeding it - it will have power. But given the LIMP coverage of Fox’s ongoing dumpster fire (“oh, we can’t call it right wing propaganda - that would be CONFRONTATIONAL and we have to be “even” - even though the evidence IS..”) … I’m not holding my breath on media having learned anything.
“But I have so many followers here In Goebbels marketplace!”
“But I have so many followers here In Goebbels marketplace!”
SHODAN 
@caseynewton I often wonder too why people put so much effort into posting there. Twitter's usage stats aren't great last time I checked, haven't been great ever but it seems to be the centre of many people's worlds. Like this isn't to say don't enjoy social media that isn't gigantic but I feel it's worth bearing in mind, there's more to life than an ultimately small social media platform.
DjDedan@caseynewton it’s those that think staying on Twitter is somehow a protest. It’s like riding the back of the bus saying you support Rosa parks. Upholding the status quo is not a sign of protest.
IdahoLark@caseynewton @tchambers It’s so discouraging. Our one local journalist that created a Mastodon account lasted about three days here. Seems like my other Birdchan peeps that came over here have mostly given up, too.
Sad Ginger@caseynewton it’s truly bizarre. Like living in an alternate reality
Frank X. Shaw@caseynewton Hi casey.
@fxshaw hi frank!!
@caseynewton how would this be different to scab printed media reporting Murdoch's wedding rather than his crimes?
vktonik@caseynewton and you know this how? 🤔😅
Steven Bodzin@[email protected] i feel like these are all people who, if they arrive first at a party, get so nervous that they go walk around for an hour rather than get the festivities started. Why not enjoy the place and get comfortable until more guests arrive?
We need to get the media outlets and politicians over here so we have raw material to chew on. Especially in the Global South. Other than Chile, I haven't see that happening so far.
Chile is interesting, though!
Sascha Pallenberg 🇹🇼 ♻️ ⚡@caseynewton he should charge for the ability to tweet!
SteveBologna
Lstn2urmama@caseynewton he just bought Goggle so it will get crazier...
3dcandy@caseynewton they know no better....
Abazigal@caseynewton Journalists go to where the audience is. No amount of “morals” or “ethics” will ever change that. If they ever do leave twitter, it will be because of poor readership, not because they suddenly grew a conscience.
Michael Gartenberg
Josh (he/his)@caseynewton I'm less concerned by his vanity antics and more concerned that he's conceded a lot of authority over Twitter to authoritarian governments that we CAN see. What we can't see, like the possibility of him handing over data on dissidents, is the scary part.
Alexander Ruthol@caseynewton
It'll remain that way until he starts actually charging for access to Twitter.
People will put up with a lot if it's free.
@caseynewton Most #journalists will not come to #Mastodon because #Mastodon lacks a robust #search function.
william.maggosdepending on what you're looking for, google already works. the #fediverse is not a separate platform, it shouldn't need a separate search engine. posts are already part of the public internet. isn't that the point?