David Sprowls
Meanwhile in CanadaBusy day at Stonehenge as the stones are moved forward one hour.
#springforward
#springforward
@@MeanwhileinCanada This joke will be funnier when England enters DST in two weeks.
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Martin Vermeer FCD
Camillavera
Jim Fenton 🇺🇸🇨🇦@MeanwhileinCanada But the UK changes their clocks a different weekend!
enmodo ⚛️ 🧬 🇺🇦 🍉@jimfenton @MeanwhileinCanada and all because lobbyists for the US candy industry persuaded Bush junior to alter our DST start and end dates. They claimed it was to keep the children safe during Halloween but everyone knows it was in the hope of increased profits because extra daylight at the end of October means more trick or treat hours and more candy sales.
@enmodo @MeanwhileinCanada Long before that, even in the 1980s, US and Europe changed clocks on different weekends. I think everyone was trying to assert their sovereignty, and it made a mess of airline schedules and the like.
JohnMashey@enmodo @jimfenton @MeanwhileinCanada
Consider Unix time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time
For a while during 1974, the USA went to "permanent" DST, which introduced a "nixonflag" to adjust the local times produced by the Unix time conversion function.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-daylight-saving-time-in-the-70s-people-hated-it/
People hated permanent DST.
Computers hate TZs and DST changes.
We should all just go to UTC!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
Consider Unix time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time
For a while during 1974, the USA went to "permanent" DST, which introduced a "nixonflag" to adjust the local times produced by the Unix time conversion function.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-daylight-saving-time-in-the-70s-people-hated-it/
People hated permanent DST.
Computers hate TZs and DST changes.
We should all just go to UTC!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
@JohnMashey @jimfenton @MeanwhileinCanada if I had a dollar for every second I've spent on date and time issues in apps I could have bailed out Silicon Valley Bank. Well, at least it feels that way...
As for just using UTC - I spend so much of my day dealing with data from a global app I pretty much think in UTC / Zulu time anyway.
I'd be up for decimalizing time too, something like Swatch time... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time and moving to more recent epoch for 0. Unix time WFM!
@enmodo @jimfenton @MeanwhileinCanada
Swatch is step too far I think, UTC already used in key domains. Given 64-bit CPUs and even “long long” on 32-bit CPUs, UNIX epoch Jan 1 1970 can last long beyond 2038… even 5,000 years from now😊 according to Vernor Vinge:
https://mstdn.social/@JohnMashey/109991399173605796
Swatch is step too far I think, UTC already used in key domains. Given 64-bit CPUs and even “long long” on 32-bit CPUs, UNIX epoch Jan 1 1970 can last long beyond 2038… even 5,000 years from now😊 according to Vernor Vinge:
https://mstdn.social/@JohnMashey/109991399173605796
JohnMashey (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] 7/ And as for the difficulty of understanding legacy software and its persistence, I couldn't resist quoting Vernor when I wrote "Languages, Levels, Libraries, and Longevity" https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1039532 The idea that 5000 years from now, a relativistic starship would be running a Unix timer routine was quite amusing.... but then, there was code written at BTL in 1960s that I think is still being used today,
@JohnMashey @jimfenton @MeanwhileinCanada with a signed 64-bit number and one second resolution you can go for 292 billion years into the future (or into the past). The question is then do you want milli, micro, or nano second resolution as well - or add an additional fractional seconds field for that?
llewelly@jimfenton @MeanwhileinCanada it takes them an extra 2-3 weeks because those stones are heavy
@jimfenton @MeanwhileinCanada
It gets worse. In 1990s, in Silicon Valley, I used to arrange lectures&sales calls in Australia & New Zealand.
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/australia/time-zones-background.html
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/australia/time-zones-background.html
Some states use DST, others do not, and some use half-hour or 15-minute offsets.
Since it's in Southern Hemisphere, states that use DST move clocks forward 1st Sunday of October, back 1st Sunday in April, which of course are not the same dates as in USA. Coordination=ugh.
World should just use UTC!
It gets worse. In 1990s, in Silicon Valley, I used to arrange lectures&sales calls in Australia & New Zealand.
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/australia/time-zones-background.html
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/australia/time-zones-background.html
Some states use DST, others do not, and some use half-hour or 15-minute offsets.
Since it's in Southern Hemisphere, states that use DST move clocks forward 1st Sunday of October, back 1st Sunday in April, which of course are not the same dates as in USA. Coordination=ugh.
World should just use UTC!
@JohnMashey @MeanwhileinCanada Of course, then we would have to argue about whether it’s UTC or GMT that we’re using.
Melinda
Wendy_Stone@MeanwhileinCanada Nooo! We're not moving the stones around here until the end of the month.
Obsolete@MeanwhileinCanada This joke is not accurate
micropainter@MeanwhileinCanada What is the meaning of Stonehenge? A song.
Ylvis - Stonehenge [Official music video HD] [Explicit lyrics]
David Crooks 🏳️🌈@MeanwhileinCanada @glennf Although (sorry, pedant) the UK doesn’t go to BST until the 26th this year
Pamela Keetch 
@MeanwhileinCanada HAHAHAHAAH!
PaulNickson 🕊️🎛️🎼@MeanwhileinCanada 2 weeks too early for us but better to be prepared.
Christo
numbakrunch@MeanwhileinCanada #LittleKnownFact The ancient Druids hollowed out those stones thousands of years ago to make them lighter.
AKMANice try, but we don’t change our clocks for another fortnight…
Final Round Player 😷🇪🇺🍸@MeanwhileinCanada Stonehenge runs on UTC +7m18s so it doesn't need to change with BST.
Groove Armada - Hands of Time (Later With Jools Holland 2002)
KenBallwegEvergreen that one.
Bitnik#springforward well ackshually...
We're still on standard time. We won't need to move the stones until later this month.
That's a relatively easy job, though. Moving the Greenwich Meridian line back and forth for DST is difficult. It's hundreds of miles long and they have to move it in the dark.
PatriciaMaskell@MeanwhileinCanada this is funny, but in the UK we don't change the clocks until 26 March
NOYJ@MeanwhileinCanada funny 😄
(I am really surprised at the number of replies pointing out that the clocks aren’t changing *yet*. It’s a joke!)
(I am really surprised at the number of replies pointing out that the clocks aren’t changing *yet*. It’s a joke!)
Rizal@Noyj @MeanwhileinCanada
But the joke would be funnier if it coincided with the changing of the clocks in a fortnight's time, not some random date beforehand. It references a UK monument after all
But the joke would be funnier if it coincided with the changing of the clocks in a fortnight's time, not some random date beforehand. It references a UK monument after all
@rizal @MeanwhileinCanada I just think it works as a funny joke regardless of when it’s told.
@Noyj @MeanwhileinCanada
But years old tradition states that it should be told on the day clocks change, not 2 weeks before
But years old tradition states that it should be told on the day clocks change, not 2 weeks before
@rizal @MeanwhileinCanada I just think it works as a funny joke regardless of when it’s told.
@MeanwhileinCanada
Nope, that won't be happening for another 2 weeks when the clocks go forward to summer time
Nope, that won't be happening for another 2 weeks when the clocks go forward to summer time
Alerta! Alerta!@MeanwhileinCanada 🤣 I need that image in my slidedeck for DST....
Andy Horne 🇪🇺🎸@MeanwhileinCanada Awkward, they've gone 2 weeks early, it'll cause havoc for the farmers.
Sara Hjelm@MeanwhileinCanada
8 days to go … they’d better hurry
8 days to go … they’d better hurry
Tormod HalvorsenC'mon, you're not fooling me. Europe doesn't go to DST until in a few weeks from now. This must be an old photo from last year or earlier.
Mx. Dudula the Dud@MeanwhileinCanada It's not happened yet here.
Big Caddy 
Peter Down@MeanwhileinCanada Too soon. BST begins at 2am on 26th March. That's going to be really confusing.
Giulio Cesare Solaroli@MeanwhileinCanada @dan they are just getting ready for the real think, as in Europe we are switching to DST only in two weeks.
@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote@MeanwhileinCanada To all the poor sods nit picking this joke… buy a hobby 😜👍
fritzcokid@MeanwhileinCanada you know some flat-earther gonna 👀
@MeanwhileinCanada Two weeks too early. Even though the UK has left the EU, they still observe the European summer time rules.
Tech Chap@MeanwhileinCanada sorry, you are early. Here starts 2 weeks of confusion when scheduling transatlantic meetings.
Irongut@MeanwhileinCanada Sorry but our clocks have NOT gone forward so that can't be Stonehenge. We won't be doing that for another 2 weeks.
Urban Hermit@MeanwhileinCanada if the Stones have a 'henge' it shouldn't be that difficult to move them.
We want a shrubbery🇵🇬@ComplotsFaciles, une image à conserver!
I can see a high risk of downfall in the background. If it were in France the operation should be stopped.
@MeanwhileinCanada "This Is Spinal Tap" made light of this, if you "get it" lol