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Tiffany LiI don’t know how to explain it, but time works differently in airports. 5 minutes and 5 hours are somehow the same. Your flight is delayed but arrives early. The carpets are from 1980. The water machines are from 2045. It is always happy hour. You have always been in the airport.
Scott@tiffanycli and yet, you’ve never been
Jo ✈️ ⚡️@tiffanycli It’s all true. Time has no meaning in airports.
toxtethogrady@tiffanycli I'm in the aviation industry and had a bumpersticker once that said...
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Katie Moussouris (she/her)🥜👋🏼@tiffanycli I have definitely always been in the airport.
Iwillyeah@tiffanycli it's mostly just waiting around, but like very high-stakes waiting around. Maybe that's why it works like casino time?
Chris Morgan@tiffanycli also there is only one airport. We may fly between terminals but if you were to keep walking and find the right doors you’d get there anyway. Also prices. They can be as high as you can imagine. You’ll pay anyway and then explain it to yourself “oh yes airports”
@chris $12 for a plain bagel? Seems right!
relsqui@chris @tiffanycli this is one thing that endears PDX to me, where prices are required to be the same as outside the airport!
Dr Daniel, Photon Shepherd🇸🇪🇦🇺@chris @tiffanycli glad to find another adherent of the "all airports are one" school of thought!
Phil Smythe@tiffanycli where you can never buy a loaf of bread, but always a teddy bear in a pilot’s costume.
Dr. Samuel Wein@tiffanycli
I always enjoy throwing on Brian Eno's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambient_1:_Music_for_Airports and just zoning out.
I always enjoy throwing on Brian Eno's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambient_1:_Music_for_Airports and just zoning out.
Catherine Novak@samweingamgee @tiffanycli ooh I didn't know that was a thing! Definitely looking it up
Wally Slowik@tiffanycli it is a time portal, as a child my dad would take me to O’Hare, we would go to the observation deck and watch the planes roar into the sky or sit parked on the side of the road having hot dogs watching the silver birds taxi and then jump airborn. Now? Whenever I drive by, I am that little boy, eyes wide with excitement.
@weslowik lovely 🥰
Kenneth@tiffanycli
The king of liminal spaces, airports.
The king of liminal spaces, airports.
lord pthenq1@tiffanycli
You nailed it
You nailed it
Steven G. Harms
Ethan Jacobs@sgharms @tiffanycli stay away from Gate 237
Nic
micropainter@tiffanycli And you must relinquish all control over your life once you enter.
Serge from Babka
Prague's Kafka International Named Most Alienating Airport
Knut Morå@tiffanycli ^ If this description of airport terminal time resonates, I highly recommend this airport terminal soundtrack:
(Bill Wurz airport terminal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-qqrGtlHkg
(Bill Wurz airport terminal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-qqrGtlHkg
at the airport terminal
BlackDutchSnark@tiffanycli Can confirm. Spent almost a whole day in CDG airport due to a “pilot issue.” There was a taxi strike going on in Paris, so not sure if that was some kind of solidarity or not…Eating baguettes, drinking wine and napping on an unused part of the 80s bowling alley/skating rink carpet. Seemed like a lifetime, but also ten minutes.
@johnettesnuggs 2/3 of that sounds pretty nice 🥖
@tiffanycli it was France, so bread and wine were a must...
@tiffanycli I’ve often felt that purgatory could be an airport terminal…
MattJohns
Bud Parr, enthusiast@tiffanycli Same for hospitals!
misterprotocol@tiffanycli Ursula LeGuin wrote a book about the consequences of this phenomenon: “Changing Planes”.
@misterprotocol will look this up now. Love her!
Angela Glansbury 🚽
Steffani Cameron@tiffanycli Heh. I thought I had three hours at a cafe during a layover but forgot about time zones AND the flight boarded early. It was dumb luck I looked up and saw it on a screen. I have been forever paranoid about time in airports ever since.
mastodon quixote@tiffanycli airports are the ultimate liminal space, to me
Jörg Volbers@tiffanycli
According to Marc Auré, it's a non- place.
According to Marc Auré, it's a non- place.
@tiffanycli
*Augé of course...
*Augé of course...
@tiffanycli Walking forever through LAX after midnight in December - I was utterly alone, except for the cleaners. I made my way from old and crumbling to new and futuristic.
Kadin@tiffanycli I have always wanted to produce a version of Sartre's "No Exit" set in an airport departure area.
Just a row of those weird airport seats, an empty service desk and closed gate door in the background, and a "Your security is important to us…" message played on a PA system every 60 seconds.
There's no place more purgatorial/liminal than an airport.
SquirrelyGrrl@tiffanycli 🎶"Same as it ever was."🎶
Lynn Greiner@tiffanycli And the queues are infinite. If it's not checkin, it's security. Or boarding. Or just trying to buy a coffee.
Gail Parenti@tiffanycli For a while I was convinced that the new Concourse D at MIA was a hologram. New and shiny, but I frequently had to walk the entire length of the largely empty concourse to end up downstairs in the gritty 1970s gates, where passengers were packed like sardines. A mind-bending hologram.
Kit Rhett Aultman@tiffanycli This is especially true if you're at Franz Kafka International Airport.
https://youtu.be/gEyFH-a-XoQ
https://youtu.be/gEyFH-a-XoQ
Prague's Kafka International Named Most Alienating Airport
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@tiffanycli Time is also very important and also not at all important. You MUST be there 2h ahead of time but wait in line an undetermined amount. The plane leaves in 90m so you better be on it 15m earlier than that! But at best that means we will board in 60m and leave the physical ground in 120m.
This week I had one that was going to leave at 3:58 then had an announced delay to 4:28, then had a silent un-delay back to 3:58, then had intermittent announcements of "just 5 more minutes" for 45m.
FeralRobots@tiffanycli There's got to be a corollary relationship with @cstross's observations about hotel-space: Make a wrong turn in a Ramada in Germany & one feels as though one could end up at a Ramada in New York.
naugtur@tiffanycli
Here's a longer version of what you wrote 😉
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~kite/doc/roauss.htm
Here's a longer version of what you wrote 😉
http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~kite/doc/roauss.htm
Harry Callahan@tiffanycli enter Rod Serling
Yusuf@tiffanycli I love being at the airport but I get a headache when I stay there for a long time. The airport is a paradox.
Mary Beth Frezon@tiffanycli I have a special gift of only being able to make travel plans that involve 8-9 hours at a connecting airport. Except that one time where my special gift was getting hustled onto an earlier flight and finding out they were trying to get people out of Memphis ahead of big storms so they wouldn't have to deal. Ended up sleeping on the floor in O'Hare with a lot of other similarly hustled people going nowhere fast. Being able to settle in to a liminal space is a blessing.
Aaron Roco@tiffanycli definitely rich people problems
DeckardPNNZ@tiffanycli Sounds a lot like Bistromaths
"Just as Einstein observed that time was not an absolute, but depended on the observer's movement through space, so it was realised that numbers are not absolute, but depend on the observer's movement in restaurants."
gnarlygeek@tiffanycli I'm sure it has something to do with faster that light travel. Just perform this experiment - exit from the security zone - takes less than 5 minutes - now try to re-enter the zone - takes 2 hours. I suspect collusion between the TSA, ATC, and the airlines. They're taking our money, investing it in "real time", but holding us hostage in this time altered state to reap the benefits of investing it. Of course, that could be the booze talking.
MarcusCSC@tiffanycli the principle of time applies to dive bars and greasy spoon cafes
Amanda "Li" Griffiths 🎨@tiffanycli Petition to make "Airport Gothic" the next big writing genre craze please?
malena@darjeeliarts @tiffanycli Emily St. John Mandel wrote a solid entry with station 11, with her artoptian future flourishing in the traverse city airport
@seachanger @tiffanycli Oh awesome, thank you for the rec! I'll have to check that out.
@darjeeliarts @tiffanycli it’s a fun novel in that the author dares to write speculative fiction that isn’t just doom porn, it’s bright and creative and intriguing. it’s also a tv series now and the show takes the premise of the book in different but also pretty cool directions (and also makes use of an airport that remains a hub of art and civilization through the end of a deadly pandemic and into a new future…)
kingdom krumb@tiffanycli No matter what gate you’re going to, it’s at the far end of the terminal.
Kevin Carson@tiffanycli The Langoliers makes a lot more sense now.
AliSnarkbar@tiffanycli this is very true. Almost like large time portals to the past, present or in some cases, the future.