@CommieGIR @benheise We will defeat AI by just being too fucking weird.
@CommieGIR my favorite part of this excerpt is the obvious joy the Marines are taking in fooling this thing

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FYI, acting weird to defeat #AI was a plot point in a #StarTrek original series episode, and the crew got quite weird.

@CommieGIR soon linear algebra will become self aware.
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Somersaulting, cardboard box, and tree disguise, as simple #adversarialAttacks in human detection #AI #algos

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What is this from? I must read more!

@CommieGIR in my experience this is any evening at the barracks on a payday weekend, honestly
@CommieGIR Solid Snake approved cardboard box
@CommieGIR @acdha this is the most Marines thing I have ever read
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I think they fooled it by acting exactly like Marines.
@CommieGIR AI shall not vanquished be until Birnum Wood comes to High Dunisnane.
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This explains all the crazy drivers I see. They are not crazy; they are evading AI detection systems.

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@cross figured you would enjoy this.

@CommieGIR another good way to defeat a robot is to pour paint all over it. Or a comforter. And then paint.
@CommieGIR This is non-fiction?
@DataShade @CommieGIR I was just about to write “someone in there likes Shakespeare”…
@CommieGIR This sounds like shit Marines would do.
@CommieGIR this toot would benefit greatly from having an alt-text
@CommieGIR ☝️ “you could hear them giggling the whole time” 🤣
@finestructure @CommieGIR I lost it at that precise point
@DreadShips @CommieGIR I envision John Cleese approaching it, Ministry of Silly Walks style, it’ll never see him coming
@CommieGIR no names given to the project, the test site or the Marines group. I'm going to put 2€ on the "never happened" box! Just like the story of the tank detector that ended up detecting the weather
Amazon.com

@CommieGIR I may be wrong and would love to know more about the incident. Just pointing out that this story is very reminiscent of the kind of urban legends that were circulating during the 90s AI winter.

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Ok but why would anyone train an AI to detect humans instead of using motion detection? Perhaps because there are other moving objects they don't want to detect, like animals or missiles or cardboard bo... wait no we want to detect cardboard boxes. But you can't have *all* disguises in the training set, can you?

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"Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."

>" What if I put this cardboard box on my head?"

"Mmm That might work"

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Looking like a tree confuses a robot, eh? Looks like at least one of my rules passes the reality test!
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Thanks
I think I will giggle all day long thanks to you

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I wonder if this AI would have spotted a man in a wheelchair.

@CommieGIR How does one walk like a tree?
@CommieGIR the machine IS its training data
@CommieGIR nice. BTW I won't share because if the Amazon link. #BoycottAmazon

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Alt text:
human with a weapon looks different.” To improve their algorithm, the DARPA team spent a week with a group of Marines out at a test site. For six days, the Marines walked around and the engineers refined their algorithm for detecting people. Phil said, “On the seventh day I said, ‘We're done. We're flipping it.’ ”

Now the Marines would try to defeat the AI system. They parked the robot in the middle of a traffic circle and the Marines had to approach it undetected

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starting from a long distance away. “If any Marines could get all the way in and touch this robot without being detected, they would win. I wanted to see, game on, what would happen.”

“Eight Marines—not a single one got detected,” Phil said. They defeated the AI system not with traditional camouflage, but with clever tricks that were outside of the AI system’s testing regime.

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“Two somersaulted for 300 meters; never got detected. Two hid under a cardboard box. You could hear them giggling the whole time.” Like Bugs Bunny in a Looney Tunes cartoon, sneaking up on Elmer Fudd in a cardboard box. “One guy, my favorite,” Phil said, “he field stripped a fir tree and walked like a fir tree.

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You can see his smile, and that’s about all you see.” The AI system had been trained to detect humans walking, not humans somersaulting, hiding in a cardboard box, or disguised as a tree. So these simple tricks, which a human would have easily seen through, were sufficient to break the algorithm.

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@encthenet @CommieGIR What I want to know is, how does a fir tree walk?
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I feel like I've seen a cartoon or something where someone just holds a couple fir branches out in their hands and walks around. But can't seem to find it.
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@CommieGIR I love that they solid snaked the AI
@CommieGIR this kinda reads like the movie ‘Everything All At Once”
@CommieGIR wait, Bugs Bunny did the Solid Snake thing?
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Cue "Ministry of Silly Walks" sketch.
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Macbot shall never vanquish'd be until
Great Birnam wood to high Dunsinane hill
Shall come against him.
@CommieGIR oh, this is pretty normal for Marines.
@CommieGIR they did a Solid Snake 😂