crazifyngersDec 13, 2022
Mike Masnick ✅
The toughest thing about proving white collar crime, as I've learned from @Popehat is proving intent. I'd imagine that suspects having a groupchat called "Wirefraud" must make prosecutors positively *giddy*. (ht: @annmlipton ) https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/ftx-s-inner-circle-had-a-secret-chat-group-called-wirefraud-20221213-p5c5sx
FTX’s inner circle had a secret chat group called ‘Wirefraud’

The revelation comes as founders Sam Bankman-Fried faces a hearing.

Australian Financial Review
Dec 12, 2022 at 10:10pmWeb
Show threadMike Masnick ✅Dec 12, 2022
@Popehat @annmlipton though, to be fair, my own jokey group chat names (of which there are many) might not look very good out of context. Even my wifi hotspot name is a joke about breaking encryption that I'd probably regret if anyone knew about it...
Show threadagundyDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton no sir I was not intending to impersonate a federal agent when I made my wifi network “FBI Surveillance Van”
Show threadMike Masnick ✅Dec 12, 2022
@agundy @Popehat @annmlipton that one is too widely used. mine is... more subtle.
Show threadPhil GreerDec 12, 2022

@mmasnick @agundy @Popehat @annmlipton

it is related to DeCSS isn't it?

Show threadbkrimmelDec 13, 2022
@agundy
My go to for temporary visible SSIDs is "FBI Party Van nn" where nn is a random number
(Visability needed for IBSS mesh)
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton
Show threadChris GeidnerDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton oops. Here we are. 😂
Show threadMark HughesDec 12, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton yeh, you can't infer anything from something like that.

You can question, but it means nothing in a world where proving facts is supposed to determine judgement. If you break with that you're back to oratory and drinking hemlock for being an inconvenient truth teller.

Show threadGoobermunchDec 12, 2022
@annmlipton @mmasnick @Popehat Dance like no one is watching. Type like you’re going to be reading it in front of a court reporter.
Show threadPaul DouglasDec 13, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton now that you mention it, the one I made for my main friend group is named after the place the mafia use as a hangout on #TheSimpsons 😅
Show threadCranky DavidDec 13, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton
my lawyer keeps rejecting my application for "24/7 Criming Unlimited, LLC" and i'm perplexed.
Show threadGabe The EngineerDec 13, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton first rule of joking about wirefraud is not doing wirefraud.
Show threadThat Anonymous CowardDec 13, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton

*stares in TAC*

Show threadsorrykbDec 13, 2022
@That_AC TAC! Hi!
Show threadThat Anonymous CowardDec 13, 2022

@sorrykb

Heh how did you manage to find me? I put so much effort into hiding

Show threadsorrykbDec 13, 2022
@That_AC It’s all Masnick’s fault. :-)
Show threadThat Anonymous CowardDec 13, 2022
@sorrykb
I'mma gonna need to see your work on arriving at that conclusion
Show threadsorrykbDec 13, 2022
@That_AC The truth exposed!
Show threadThat Anonymous CowardDec 13, 2022

@sorrykb

Well you know me I turn up in all the places

Show threadsorrykbDec 13, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Well we all know about it now. :)
Show threadAnathema DeviceDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton good grief!
Show threadQuietPartQuietDec 12, 2022
@anathema_device @mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton what if they added "(parody)" at the end?
Show threadMike SmithDec 12, 2022
@QuietPartQuiet @anathema_device @mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Wirefraud…in Minecraft
Show threadLizardDec 12, 2022
@QuietPartQuiet @anathema_device @mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Depends. Did they pay 8.00/month?
Show threadJeff FeckeDec 13, 2022
@LizardSF @QuietPartQuiet @anathema_device @mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton They're using iPhones, so $11.
Show threadChristopherDec 13, 2022
@QuietPartQuiet @anathema_device @mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton
In Minecraft?
Show threadBrandon BaumgartnerDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton This seems almost too convenient of a fact. Saw on Twitter that SBF commented he wasn't aware/on this channel, keeping up Ken's favorite pastime of clients live blogging their potential criminal exposure.
Show threadLorryDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton I wanna laugh, but our whistleblower chat channel was called #insurrection
Show threadGeoff GreenDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton they were probably chatting about the “wireGUARD” VPN protocol and just misspelled it. You know, the “f” and “g” are *thisclose* on the keyboard!
Show threadSteve TorrenteDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Subtle.
Show threadBlake C. StaceyDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Well, I've just spent 3 minutes paralyzed with giggles.
Show threadBlake C. StaceyDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Rookie mistake. Should have named it "Absolutely Not Wirefraud".
Show threadLizardDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton "It stood for, uh, 'We Inherently Reject Every Fraud'. W.I.R.E. Fraud, see? That was our firm corporate policy."
Show threadThe Big FoxDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton
Show threadFord EytouDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Apparently #FraudGuarantee was already taken. 💰
Show threadThe Almighty Tallest 🇺🇦Dec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton kind of sad how easy criminals make things for cops. Put some effort into your crimes, people!
Show threadJonah SteinDec 12, 2022

Nothing illegal about corporate executives using a signal chat group to discuss trades, right?

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton

Show threadScott EllisonDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton I had to google the use of the word 'learnt vs learned'.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Show thread"Nurture-boy" Ric FlairDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick
Talk about privilege letting you fail upward. Most low level drug dealers have more common sense than these clowns.
@Popehat @annmlipton
Show threadI'm a hwomanDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton this has to be a joke
Show threadJay WolmanDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton oh no.
Show thread@[email protected]Dec 12, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton

I’d’ve been rubbing my hands and saying “thank you” for sure.

Reminds me of when I prosecuted England’s most prolific bottom spanker for multiple counts of indecent assault, helped massively by his numerous detailed notebooks and videos keeping a record of who he had spanked with what, when and what they were (or were not) wearing.

He did plead not guilty but I’ve never seen a faster jury verdict of guilty on all counts.

Show threadPwnallthethingsDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton hahahaha omfg how is this real
Show threadTim ClancyDec 12, 2022
@Pwnallthethings @mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton can't wait for The Bonfire of the Vanities Redux
Show threadjack the nonabrasiveDec 13, 2022
@Pwnallthethings @mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton "but, your honor, this was a secret channel dedicated to *preventing* and *investigating* wirefraud."
Show threadrobert daniel pickardDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Misspelled "Wirecard"
Show threademmasrandomthoughtsDec 12, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton

🤣

Show threadJDubDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton
Unreal.
Show threadJDubDec 13, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton

Just saw over on Post.news, and here just now, that Bahamian authorities just arrested SBF.

A healing factor is that I didn’t see this on Twitter. Because I’ve deleted Twitter finally. Lol

Show threadBuffy Summers and Mr. PointyDec 12, 2022
@annmlipton @mmasnick @Popehat well hot damn.
Show threadkira :3Dec 12, 2022
@mmasnick this is like the finance/crypto bro version of the blizzard activision bill cosby picture
Show threadGojira1000Dec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton While being stupid isn't a crime, some crime can be an indicator for stupidity.
Show threadChris BohnDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton 🤦
Show threadSam PoulinDec 12, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton only the smartest people in Silicone Valley…
Show threadIván Cavero BelaundeDec 13, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton never fails
Show threadJonDec 13, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton

It's like an easy button for the prosecutor.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/12/ftx-founder-sam-bankman-fried-arrested-in-the-bahamas-after-us-files-criminal-charges.html

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried arrested in the Bahamas after U.S. files criminal charges

Sam Bankman-Fried's arrest is the first concrete move by regulators to hold individuals accountable for the multibillion-dollar implosion of FTX last month.

CNBC
Show threadSir J MastodonDec 13, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton coffeezilla’s third interview on Twitter spaces is extremely telling, so this just isn’t a surprise
Show threadsotsogmDec 13, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton oh dear.

In a weird way it makes me feel better about some of my clients' poor online communications decisions.

Show threadXyla 🫧Dec 13, 2022

@mmasnick

If a certain money transfer ever comes back to haunt me, I'm going to have a very hard time convincing a judge that the memo line "for Johnny's fantasy" was, in fact, related to fantasy football and not, uh, how it could be read

Show threadDavid WilliamsDec 13, 2022

@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton

I would have given you $100 gets $1000 odds we were never going to out-do Fraud Guarantee. But here we are.

Show threadPeter BonneyDec 13, 2022
@mmasnick @Popehat @annmlipton Every 22 year old Wall Street analyst gets it beaten into their heads in their first 5 minutes on the job that regulators and prosecutors will read all of your weak attempts at humor in the worst and most humorless way possible.
Apparently children of (checks notes) attorneys don’t.