Think of it this way. A content warning label serves two purposes. It protects people who don’t want their feed cluttered or upsetting and a service as a little preview of something exciting that might be hidden behind the curtain. Kind of like the quote tweet did
Also keep in mind that out of courtesy many will not boost any political tweet that doesn’t have a warning. So actually, respecting others will help get your message across and create the kind of community we want.
@Eumenes @jentaub @Stmorecowbell when I first arrived, I thought "I don't need CWs, I've seen it all on Twitter", and toggled the setting to have all them open by default.
Terrible idea. I might have had it that way for two days, tops.
@jentaub @Stmorecowbell I am fine with mastodon communities collaborating to establish norms but it's more important to welcome and encourage people for now, the content warning stuff is off putting to me.
This is a brand new community!
Interesting choice of words, Carty.
This is neither a new community nor a “brand” new one. People have lived on here for years. We are the newcomers. I’m not interested in being a colonizer. We are not tourists. Space here, and yes our presence will be transferring it out, but you don’t need to shout and leave litter everywhere
I used "communities" once in the toot, that's the better word.
I am encouraging people to be patient and I will be patient myself, I love that you are posting here, thank you
I hear you! We will all adapt and grow
@capemaydave @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
of course! but in general dictating how others post is less effective than simply following people with similar perspective on what's appropriate.
@CartyBoston @capemaydave @Stmorecowbell
keep in mind that no one is dictating what we do.
@CartyBoston @capemaydave @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
We came to THEIR house.
You can complain all you want about how silly you think it is, but if they want you to take your shoes off and leave them by the door, then it's a good idea to do it.
And if you REALLY hate it, then make your own instance, with your own rules, and don't complain about lack of reach.
@damianaswan @capemaydave @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
Done! it's https://mastodon.roundpond.net y'all are welcome.
I don't care about reach.
@jentaub @Stmorecowbell
I also think that the background toxicity of the corporate social media apps have given a different meaning to "content warning" than what the norms are here.
I find the *use* of CWs here to be more consistent with content *wrappers*, not necessarily *warnings*.
People wrap content for many reasons - to avoid screen clutter, consideration for other users, avoid drama/attention, hide NSFW, etc.
That changed my perspective, though YMMV.
@ElleFormidable @buddhabound @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
But it's a metadata label that's not searchable in any way, correct?
@ElleFormidable @buddhabound @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
I tried to do some research on that yesterday, and I found that hashtags in the visible part of the CW were not searchable, but they are in the hidden part.
@mara @ElleFormidable @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
Seems like a great way to have a conversation without attracting a ton of unwanted attention ;)
@ElleFormidable @buddhabound @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
I saw that, too; yes, very unclear.
But it's pretty easy to test. I made a post with a hashtag in the visible part, and found it didn't get searched. Then made a post with a hashtag in the hidden part, and found it did get searched.
(I also found the best way to search hashtags was not with the search box, but just using an URL in my browser that ended with /tags/desiredhashtag)
@JayAdan @jentaub @Stmorecowbell
Sounds like a receiving problem, since you tried to clarify the messaging and the person blocked you. Weird.
But, that interaction also seems pretty consistent with the toxicity on commercialized social media that we've all been convinced is "the way". And, honestly, those people won't last here, because they're going to silo themselves off and hate it.
@PBall @jentaub @Stmorecowbell So therefore you don't need content wrappers? People see your toots when they're boosted, whether they follow you or not. People will be more willing to boost your toots if you put content wrappers on it.
Why do you dislike them, is the real question? What's the downside?
@mosugerman @Stmorecowbell @jentaub That sounds like a box I would like to check! I’m on the web. Do I count as having a personal app with settings?
(And to muse upon, mildly: it very definitely the Best of All Possible Worlds that the default is not the other way around, or that it is not a setup choice instead of a default?)
@mosugerman @Stmorecowbell @jentaub I think this only refers to the Content Warning. I would love to be less sheltered from users on other servers, and also to have an easier time going through the act of following them.
It seems inevitable that someone will make a Mastodon app that puts all of that in the background, and that everyone who is not superhardcore will use that app.
@touchingfreedom I don’t think my assertion that Mastodon is being flooded with ex-Twitter users eager to discuss the U.S. midterms is insensitive or insufficiently broad-minded. I’m pretty sure it’s straightforwardly factual.
And, of course, like me, many of those users have a lot of other interests, too. I listen solely to non-U.S. news podcasts, for instance—and, dang it all, U.S. politics do seem pretty worth discussing right now :)
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