Graeme
Mike Masnick ✅So... this morning I had more notifications waiting for me in Mastodon than I did in Twitter. And all the notifications on Twitter are people telling me Mastodon will never get enough users to matter.
ylwsunflwergrl 🌻@mmasnick i like it here much better. My anxiety is also much better today. :)
Katgal@ylwsunflwergrl
I just escaped the Twit and feel the same way.
I just escaped the Twit and feel the same way.
WarningEagle@ylwsunflwergrl @mmasnick Same here!
Still stopping by there to check the news (not everyone is here... Yet!) and I'm also cross posting, but I think it's just temporary.
Still stopping by there to check the news (not everyone is here... Yet!) and I'm also cross posting, but I think it's just temporary.
Xerz 💗@mmasnick so basically it’s all the Twitter people who needed an excuse to talk to you
Austin Clemens@mmasnick Do you think this will be a problem if Mastodon grows? Fixable? https://twitter.com/IBJIYONGI/status/1589628794062934016?s=20&t=0lX37KgcEXZNWaM9MHSwOg
JackFromWisconsin@austinc @mmasnick the Federated nature of Mastodon means the moderation will be handled by 1000s of server owners, not a big moderation club. So i don't see the moderation being an issue at large.
If you're talking at the server level, then for sure moderation can be an issue if a server gets too big. But if server owners encourage federation over size, that issue can be avoided mostly.
@JackFromWisconsin @mmasnick Interesting, thanks! Seems very challenging for a decentralized system like this to tackle moderation when there's no real monetization, but I see your argument.
@JackFromWisconsin @austinc small communities still run into moderation challenges...
noirscape moved to @@mmasnick @austinc To be clear, as someone who has been selfhosting fedi stuff for ~4 years now, most moderation challenges are fairly easy to decide on.
A big part of that is because moderation decisions are a lot more granular than you usually get access to with a centralized service. ie. if some instance is mucking up the federated timeline but isn’t generally being a jerk about it, you can usually silence their instance (which means you still can follow and interact, their posts just don’t get show up on the federated timeline). The federated timeline itself is generally speaking somewhat conservatively populated so you rarely run into problems with it.
There’s also the fact that the scope of moderation is pretty limited, which avoids a lot of the usual problems of the impossibility theorem - I know what I enjoy, and if someone else doesn’t enjoy my decisions they’re free to leave and that statement doesn’t outright disconnect them from the rest of the fediverse. This even works if they’re banned, you can always make an export of your following list and import it to somewhere else. Given that there’s some instances that literally allow everything, as nasty as it gets within the bounds of US free speech laws, there’s truly room for everyone on the fediverse, just not a requirement to share the same room with everyone else.
@austinc every social media site has to deal with content moderation challenges.
Stop-the-MAGAss-Reich@austinc @mmasnick Have a feeling not their first rodeo. https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/20691957/mastodon-decentralized-social-network-gab-migration-fediverse-app-blocking
David@mmasnick i think a million active users is sufficient
Keith (karmajunkie)@mmasnick At first the naysayers were just cute, but the longer this goes on the more annoying I find them. Clearly they missed the early days of twitter and like, email.
I just can't decide what's worse–FUD'ing the fediverse, or following up with a pro-crypto post.
rateexportpilot@mmasnick honestly, I'm legitimately enjoying my experience over here, and every time I click over there it's everyone making the same 6 jokes about whatever dumb shit Elon did in the last hour.
Still a bit janky over here, but in a way that seems more like a promising start than a death spiral.
The Next Day@mmasnick How do you put up a banner pic?
OpenDNA⚙️
Arden (she/her)
Ernie Smith@mmasnick All these people so concerned about fetch not happening that they didn’t notice that fetch is happening
Ulrich Junker@mmasnick I haven’t got any Twitter notification since I left for Mastodon. Strange, but I don’t complain.
Abuela 🪁I lost more than thirty followers over there, today. I expect to lose more, it seems I’m failing a loyalty test. So be it .
Arctic (back up - see pinned)@mmasnick let me guess, all their names ended in '.eth'?
OliKočková@mmasnick Exactly the same on my Twitter account 😆 some people are crazy that exists something else than Twitter.
LeftyLayman@mmasnick amen. I feel the same way as a very very small account. It feels like my posts here get seen more
JR Buckley 🏳️🌈⚛️
Lina Rodriguez@mmasnick Never show this level of arrogance. That is Jessy Stay, author of several For Dummies books.
Rob Hooft@mmasnick strange, I had absolutely nothing waiting for me on MySpace.
krakalak 
@mmasnick
You know this could be the tipping point.
I tried Mastodon when Musk announced his interest in buying Twitter. There wasn't anywhere near this much activity and excitement then.
You know this could be the tipping point.
I tried Mastodon when Musk announced his interest in buying Twitter. There wasn't anywhere near this much activity and excitement then.
cermak_rd
MackajHa ha. It matters to those of us who are here, and we're the ones that count.
Wendy M. Grossman@mmasnick The same people who probably used to say Twitter was pointless because people only post what they had for breakfast?
@wendyg i recall that it was lunch, not breakfast 😉 but yes...
AT Hayes@mmasnick Rabble rabble rabble RABBARABBArabble!!
SmittyHalibut@mmasnick twitter has started with the “you haven’t posted in a while. Let’s tempt you back into engagement!” stuff in my mentions.
dragonfrog@mmasnick An interesting difference re notifications - in Mastodon, I can disable notifications for likes, if I prefer to only be notified there's an opportunity for conversation. Twitter has had how many years to implement such a basic feature?
Ag@mmasnick how many does it take to matter?
Christina Hendriks@mmasnick same, here I had triple the number of notifications.
Deborah Rose@mmasnick That's funny.
Zorro Notorious MEB@mmasnick Yeah, between Mastodon and LinkedIn, I've been much less agitated the past few days.
Sean G@mmasnick all it took was one MC Hammer to get everyone to use Twitter.
Boss Conductor 
@mmasnick nobody likes my jokes on Twitter anymore
Rod Hilton@mmasnick yeah I love all the "Mastodon will never reach critical mass" stuff on the bird app.
My guy it's already reached it
Paul LaPorte@mmasnick I joined birdsite when it had 100,000 users and no one knew what it was useful for.
Travis@FHGPaulLaPorte @mmasnick username?
Matt Doughty@mmasnick The anti-Mastodon crowd on Twitter almost sound like they are being paid to badmouth it.
CarpInSanDiego
HongPong@mmasnick is that the ratio
Alexis Brignoni 
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CJ the Awkward Lefty@mmasnick Me too, but that's because on Twitter I muted all notifications from people I don't follow so as not to get bombarded by the worst people on the internet whenever I express an opinion.
Alexandre Oliva (moved to @yeah, we're boosting notification counts to dispel this sort of misperception ;-P
Elias Mårtenson@mmasnick I mean, even before the latest wave, it sure had enough users to matter to me. And that's what matters.
Pé 🌻@mmasnick kind of makes you realize how many quiet lurkers there are on Twitter… the sort of people who will never pay $8 for the service but are crucial to maintaining ad revenue.
Brigitte Turi@mmasnick this made me giggle. Thank you!