@creatrixtiara that's super fair, i know personally I really want to help people, but it's also really annoying trying to talk to people on twitter complaining about something here but then never explaining or saying straight up incorrect information

i think it's a human issue that should be worked on either way for sure, and I appreciate you posting this

@creatrixtiara Agreed. We should be seeking to help new people, not call them stupid.

Hell, I'm still not 100% on how all this works. It's like anything else in that there's a learning curve.

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+1. Mastodon is great underlying tech & capabilities.

Its UX surfaces too much of that richness & complexity upfront. Getting value from & bringing value to the community only requires users to understand a small % of the mastodon mental model. UX that lets people use mastodon like they used Twitter, until they NEED the more complex features, is (1) good design and (2) better "business" for mastodon.

@creatrixtiara Don't do this. This is horseshit.

Help your fellow netizens, don't build walls.

@creatrixtiara It's deeply frustrating to see. There's an expectation for new users to quickly accept and embrace Masto's founding ideals of decentralization etc. when they're more just trying to figure out how stuff works so they can find their friends and shitpost.

And ngl, the migration-refugee wording coupled with angry vibes about preserving existing culture or how newcomers should've X start sounding very familiar and icky.

@creatrixtiara I’m sorry people suck.

I chalk some/most of it up to people not liking the fact that their alternative cool-kids club is becoming mainstream, and will inevitably change somewhat because of it. It’s digital hipster-ism, and it’s immature and silly.

And frankly, they can spin off their own server and moderate however they like if it bothers them so much.

@creatrixtiara I must admit, this is the first comment about the other place I've bothered opening.

Some of the conversations have been like the person who won't stop going on about their ex or just gatekeepy rubbish I thought we have moved passed.

@creatrixtiara as a birdsite refugee i appreciate this. i'm noticing the same kind of talk on tumblr. It is legitimately frustrating, especially for content creators, to have to migrate. we lose a lot of audience in the process and it sucks. it'd be kinder to help folks out than watch them flounder.

plus human nature is the same wherever you go, there will always be trolls/bad actors. we can ignore them lol

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Personally, I've realised that the 'speed' or 'tempo' on here is different compared to birdsite.

So far It's been fun here. I'm still getting used to all the tools.

Not run into any folks being rude, just maybe a little indifferent

@creatrixtiara thank you for this. I've seen some of these, and called them out.

OTOH, I did also make a short thread about how a bunch of people seem to think they are entitled to fedi being "Twitter without Musk", and how their hot-takes seem to be more about justifying why they don't want to try fedi out — and how grating this is to people who have to engage with them.

I think there is a way to talk about that without the superiority.

@creatrixtiara well said! 🙏  

Let me just also add to this, that blanketing everyone who is into #blockchain as "cryptobros" equally fills me with disdain.

I work in that industry and have never shilled anything here--that's not what most of us are about.

I'm sure many other folks are in this awkward situation.