I spoke about this a few days ago, but since there are so many new folks here: Mastodon has lists. And they're useful. You need to already be following people but you can put them into lists and then just call up that list. So, I have a list for journalists, and for tech law people. And it's super useful for me.

Unfortunately, lists are not currently public or shareable, though.

But test out the list feature to make Mastodon more useful.

@mmasnick Still very new to Mastodon. These sound handy... Where can I find "lists"?
@airwolf85 should be in the sidebar/main menu (Depending on which interface you're using...)
@mmasnick Nice to know! I love lists...
@mmasnick very helpful tip! thank you!
@mmasnick I really wish they would give the option to make them public. On Twitter I used a combination of public lists, some lists I kept private, and some lists from others. It made a huge difference in seeing what I want to see over there.
@rchusid people keep asking for it. I imagine it will happen at some point.
@mmasnick My next DIY project. More people and news outlets appear here more useful it will be.
@mmasnick i really like the concept of guppe, but it definitely takes community buy-in

@mmasnick on Twitter, instead of following people directly, you can put them in a list. I think it works the same way here.

This way you can silo out topics and use the main follow list to only read people from whom you donโ€™t want to miss any updates.

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@mmasnick my issue is that the + symbol is way too like the x symbol on dark mode. Also it seems some people can't be added to lists even when you follow them?
@mmasnick @Corkseashell there is a short delay after you follow them before you can add them to a list
@mmasnick I used these a lot on Twitter, good in Tweetdeck and the unofficial Twitter apps...
@mmasnick are they public? Can a person on a list see that theyโ€™re on it?
@mmasnick not making them shareable is a feature not a bug. Shared lists are ripe for harassment and bullying.
@mmasnick would also be nice to make lists exportable/importable via csv

@mmasnick Lists are indeed great.

But they're not especially good at topical sorting. People tend to be multidimensional, and don't simply post on single topics.

(There are some exceptions. But they're ... exceptions. And yes you can use topical lists for them.)

You also cannot post to a specific list --- these aren't groups or channels. They're specifically a way for you to organise your incoming stream(s).

What I find most useful is to arrange lists by interest level. I usually sort this to about three levels, high medium and low-level interest. I'll also usually dump high-frequency posters into a "Voluble" list --- they can fight amongst one another for attention, and not drown out the quiet-but-interesting types.

My higher-interest lists I curate aggressively, and if someone's not providing joy or is posting excessively I'll bump them down a level. In practice, 15--30 people in my highest-interest list seems to work out about right, and that's including a number of older accounts which seem to have gone mostly inactive. Less is more.

Note that in the standard Mastodon interface, you can edit lists either:

  • From a profile page, under the kebab menu, "Add or Remove from Lists", or

  • From a List stream itself, burger -> "Edit List".

@mmasnick did you also notice that with no fanfare, you can just edit posts? 
@chancerydaily oh yeah, but i've been keeping that secret from folks on twitter
@mmasnick Ohhhhh are we doing this all on the DL
@chancerydaily honestly, i'll probably forget tomorrow and blab about it.

@mmasnick

Hey Mike!!!
Account Export lists is an option....
its csv so its easily editables

@mmasnick @Pwnallthethings Honestly theyโ€™re better than bird app lists, because since I follow them I can still see replies between people Iโ€™ve sorted to different lists!
@mmasnick Iโ€™ve seen you post about this before and now Iโ€™m thinking about trying it.
@mmasnick on other tools, I liked having certain things in lists but not in my feed. Is that not possible here?
@mmasnick And where, pray tell, do we find the feature and add to the lists?
@evaandhercats should be in your menu bar somewhere... depends on what app/interface you're using
@mmasnick Although it's not possible to directly share a list, you can export and import lists as CSV files. So you could export your list as a CSV file, and then let people download it and import it into their own accounts โ€” though that is so much trouble it might not be worth it.
@mmasnick Another issue. One of the best things about twitter lists is you could see 1000 people without following them. I suspect this is meant to discourage the possibility of trolls monitoring feeds too easily, but again, at the expense of UX for everyone else.
@mmasnick
I've been trying to add new follows to lists, but for many users, when I click on the "+" in the lists popup box, nothing happens. Do you know if there are some users/instances that block users from being able to add them/their users to lists?
@lauriewainberg I have no idea... I have heard that some people have been having trouble with lists today, so I wonder if it's a scaling issue? Maybe try again tomorrow?
@mmasnick
Thanks --I've added a few more and not been able to add a few more from various instances, so still haven't homed in on a correlation / cause but I'll keep at it. Lists have been critical to my Twitter enjoyment so I'm hoping to be able to recreate here...
@mmasnick Wonder whether there's a hack to export a list as a CSV so I could import it as followers or a list of my own.
@mmasnick @jeffjarvis - I think import and export data # is in the preferences for the web app
@jeffjarvis @mmasnick Does this (https://pruvisto.org/debirdify/) work for lists? There is a link to do it there...
Debirdify

This is a web app that helps you find out which of the people you follow on Twitter are on Mastodon/in the Fediverse already and follow all of them easily.

@jeffjarvis yes. it does look like you can csv lists and export/import them
@mmasnick @jeffjarvis If you have one please share ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
@mathewi @jeffjarvis so many more people have joined since i set up my lists that i need to reset my lists... waiting a bit longer and then i can do that and share.
@mmasnick @mathewi @jeffjarvis You can just migrate from one instance to another at the bottom of the edit profile page
@chiefoldmist @mathewi @jeffjarvis we're discussing lists, not moving instances?
@mmasnick @mathewi @jeffjarvis Then I've replied to the wrong toot... Apologies...
@jeffjarvis @mmasnick the problem with lists is of course that people on them donโ€™t stick to the topic they are labeled with ๐Ÿ˜‰ Works well for role accounts tho.
@rasmus @jeffjarvis i don't mind that so much. I'm not making lists with the expectations that it's SOLELY about that topic. But just so I can see what people in those areas are talking about.
@mmasnick @jeffjarvis Yes, works a bit like social circles, and hints to what kind of conversations are relevant in those particular spheres. I'd be interested to separate my streams by language as well. A polyglot UI would be nice.
@jeffjarvis @mmasnick Here can import followers, not come across anything yet that can do lists https://fedifinder.glitch.me/
Fedifinder

Fediverse accounts of your X/Twitter followings

@mmasnick fyi You can create and share files of people to follow. @jon shows how.
https://coywolf.com/federated-seos/
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A list of SEOs on federated social platforms like Mastodon that use the ActivityPub protocol.

Coywolf

@mmasnick Anyone having trouble getting lists to work? I added a few people to them, but no posts yet -- perhaps because they haven't posted since I added them?

I have also been getting intermittent failures on adding people to lists. Not sure if this is a common experience.

@j15r i've heard some people having issues as various sites deal with scaling. But yeah, lists only show posts going forward. They won't pull in from before...

@mmasnick Got it, thanks. That's kind of what I figured.

I'm running my own instance on masto.host, but haven't really dug into whether there are logs or anything I should be watching.

@mmasnick

That's what I so appreciated in G+, those shared circles!