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We remember the optimists in philosophy—the ones who tell us we’re fundamentally good, that virtue comes naturally. Then there’s Xunzi.

This 3rd-century BCE Chinese thinker looked at human nature and said: “No. We’re selfish, envious, and left alone, we’d tear civilization apart.” While Mencius claimed we have moral “sprouts” inside us, Xunzi argued we’re born chaotic and must be transformed through deliberate effort.

In this video, we explore:

Why Xunzi’s “human nature is evil” claim was so shocking

How ritual (li) and music reshape desire instead of suppressing it

His radical naturalistic view of Heaven—and why it matters today

The tragic irony of his students becoming Legalist authoritarians

Why Xunzi was marginalized for 2,000 years—and why we’re finally listening again

Xunzi’s message is urgent for our moment: civilization isn’t natural or self-sustaining. It’s an achievement that requires constant work, education, and vigilance. When we forget this, chaos returns.

This is philosophy for people who want to understand how human societies actually work—not how we wish they would.

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Xunzi: The Architect of Confucian Order

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La teinture bleue extraite de la waide est plus bleue que la waide elle-même.

D'après #XunZi

Now, people who are influenced by teachers and laws, accumulate literature and knowledge, and follow propriety and righteousness are superior men, whereas those who give rein to their feelings, enjoy indulgence, and violate propriety and righteousness are inferior men. From this point of view, it is clear that the nature of man is evil and that his goodness is the result of his activity.

~ #Xunzi, whose views on the bastard nature of humanity predate #ThomasHobbes by literal millennia.

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Aristotle and Xunzi on Shame, Moral Education, and the Good Life by Jingyi Jenny Zhao, 2024

The first major work that takes two philosophers from the ancient Greek and early Chinese traditions to stimulate discussion of an interdisciplinary nature on the rich and complex topic of the emotions-in particular, of shame.

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Our first philosophy salon at the Wansha Performing Arts Centre in #Tainan was last Saturday. We talked about #Xunzi, #philosophy, #Plato and #music.

Here's a write-up of some thoughts that came out of the session.

https://www.lookingforwisdom.com/music-joy/

The Art of Chinese Philosophy
(2022) : Goldin, Paul R.
isbn: 9780691200811
#history #chinese_philosophy #mencius #mozi #xunzi #philosophy #han_feizi #sunzi #confucius #laozi #zhuangzi #my_bibtex

Spent today hashing out around 4000 words for a conference paper on the Yijing, Zhuangzi, Xunzi, life, death, mourning, nourishing… in fact, the whole kit and caboodle.

#philosophy #zhuangzi #xunzi #grief #yijing #death #chinese

The Art of Chinese Philosophy: Eight Classical Texts and How to Read Them
(2022) : Paul R. Goldin
isbn: 9780691200811
#history #philosophy #chinese_philosophy #confucius #mozi #mencius #laozi #zhuangzi #sunzi #xunzi #han_feizi
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