Is anyone here using the Proton wallet? Can you share your impressions of security, usability (for example, for airline tickets), etc.?

Thank you!

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Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices that harm developers and consumers
https://proton.me/blog/apple-lawsuit

I find this interesting:
"Proton itself has also been victim of Apple’s censorship. In 2020, Apple threatened to take Proton VPN out of the App Store unless we removed language from our App Store description that said the app could be used to “unblock censored websites.”

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Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices that harm developers and consumers | Proton

Apple's anti-competitive App Store policies are gouging consumers, enabling censorship, and harming privacy-focused developers. We're joining a lawsuit to restore internet freedom.

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If you're trying to avoid the legality and jurisdiction of the United States, you should know:

Proton is subject to Us Jurisdiction.

If you need or want an alternative, I have a whole list of providers outside Us Jurisdiction

https://codeberg.org/Linux-Is-Best/Outside_Us_Jurisdiction

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Outside_Us_Jurisdiction

Digital Service Providers outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America.

Codeberg.org

After reading below (if you do), the question you should be asking is: How can the United States and their independent States Laws, impose on a company that is supposedly 100% all Switzerland?

They do not list Germany or France or any other country on the planet, just the United States (and Switzerland).

" You further agree that for any disputes, actions, claims, or other controversies arising out of or relating in any way to these Terms, your Account, the Services, your use of (or lack of use of) or access to (or lack of access to) your Account or the Services, or any advertising, promotion, or other communications between you and the Company, whether based in contract, warranty, tort, statute, regulation, ordinance, or any other legal or equitable basis, if brought in the United States and found to have jurisdiction in the United States, shall be construed and enforced in accordance with the laws of the state where you reside; provided, however, that the arbitration provisions herein shall be governed by the Federal Arbitration Act and the American Arbitration Association (“AAA”) Consumer Arbitration Rules (the “AAA Rules”), as described more fully below in Section 13.1. "
The answer, by the way, is Proton. - Yes, a business can start in another country, Switzerland, for example, and fall under Us Jurisdiction. To put it another way, some people have dual citizenship, and so can a corporation.

You can find that quote directly on their website:
https://proton.me/legal/terms

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Terms of Service | Proton

Terms of Service for using the proton.me website and your Proton Account, including Proton Mail, Proton Contacts, Proton Calendar, and Proton Drive.

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My #ProtonWallet account has an issue, where it cannot load data. Back in 2024, I joined ProtonWallet with my newly upgraded Proton Sentinel account, and couldn't make use of it, due to a lack of funds. One day, I went and created 15 wallets to be used as project collectives, and within a month, I went to visit the in the mid day, and it wasn't working, showing the above error. I got on with tech support, but they kept asking for browser logs, which I provided, but then asked for more logs. Eventually, after a few weeks of back and forth, I stopped responding, and the request closed. I am wanting to get ProtonWallet functional still, but I don't know how to do so. Does anyone have any ideas?
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A company truly outside Us Jurisdiction does NOT have terms and conditions concerning Us Customer and Us Laws, because they do not need them, because they do not apply to them. The same way, they do not need to include the other 200 or so, nations around the world.

It is rocket science. This is not hard to understand.

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" 200 or so, countries world-wide, and they only include terms and cite laws, that they know apply to them. "So many corporate simps ignore this little fact.

Do you see Proton cite terms for Japan or Korea, or any other friendly nation? No, because Proton is only subject to the laws where they are a registered business. Proton only (and others like them) worries about the ones that apply to them, and they include the United States of America for a reason.

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Oh, I am aware of your simping trolling behavior for Proton, but I refuse to acknowledge your nonsense on my old account.

You do not get to pick and choose what laws you follow, and only when you feel they are connivent. That is not how laws work. Proton does not list any laws or bi-laws concerning, the "France" (random), for example, because they could, careless since they do not apply to them. They're not a registered business in "France" (random). The same way, I and most people here, don't care about what the laws are in North Korea, for example. Because they do not apply to most of us here.

There are over 200 independent states or nations or territories, or whatever, but you don't see terms and guidelines for all 200. The reason for this is that a business, like a person, only cares about the laws that apply to them. It is not rocket science.

Proton sells products and services to people in France, South Korea, Germany, Canada, Etc... Etc... Just as you could sell digital products and services to these people, but you would not need to put terms concerning each individual nation for each individual customer, because it would be the responsibility of your customer to follow their own laws, and the only laws that would apply to you are those you are subject to. Again, you don't see any business on the internet, listing terms for all 200 or so independent states, or nations, or territories, or whatever, but you do see them including only the ones that apply to themselves.

Proton, is subject to Us-jurisdiction and that is why they include terms and conditions surrounding US Laws. They'll argue that it only applies to Proton Wallet, but again, you don't get to pick and choose, when laws apply to an individual, anymore than you can a business. But even if it were true (it's not), they could still be influences and impacted by the laws and governing body of the United States, since they were not immune to them.

In contrast, I and most people here are immune to whatever goes on in, North Korea (random example). I can freely write all about how awful Kim Jong Un is, even though it is illegal to do so in North Korea. There is nothing legally stopping me, and no one within that governing body could ever influence me to stop either.

You like Proton. I am happy you found a provider you like. But you, choose to like or disliking Proton, does not change their legal standing.
https://proton.me/wallet/terms

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Proton Wallet Terms of Use | Proton

These Terms of Use ("Terms") constitute an agreement between the customer ("you" or "user") and Proton Financial AG, a company limited by share incorporated in Switzerland with company number CHE-279.911.859, whose registered address is Baarermattstrasse 8F 6340 Baar, Switzerland (the "Company", "Proton Financial AG").

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Proton is leaving because Proton cannot control the flow of information here on the Fediverse.

Most corporations mimic social algorithms to their advantage, particularly, to suppress news and information that may not paint them in a good light. Proton cannot do that on the Fediverse.

When Proton rebranded a few years ago, which caused some people to lose their accounts with no refund, they silenced any complaints on both Facebook and Reddit. I know, because I was one of those people. Most of you were happy to have the new upgraded accounts, but if you had the original family plan, which they discontinued (only to start selling a new family plan months later), you were not a happy person to find out you lost your service.

Additionally, it has been brought to people's attention that Proton now falls under Us-jurisdiction. Proton would like to argue that is only for Proton Wallet, but our legal system does not allow a company to pick and choose. Plus, even if they could (you cannot), it means they could still be pressured and influence by US Politics and US Laws now. This was another little fact, Proton wanted to suppress, but cannot because the Fediverse is organic, and not centralized.

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