If you're trying to avoid the legality and jurisdiction of the United States, you should know:

Proton is subject to Us Jurisdiction.

If you need or want an alternative, I have a whole list of providers outside Us Jurisdiction

https://codeberg.org/Linux-Is-Best/Outside_Us_Jurisdiction

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Outside_Us_Jurisdiction

Digital Service Providers outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America.

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People were like -- Nah man, it is only Proton Wallet.

Not anymore, it's not. Proton is under Us Jurisdiction.



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RE: https://mk.absturztau.be/notes/a8s37jdhk1ps00n0

After reading below (if you do), the question you should be asking is: How can the United States and their independent States Laws, impose on a company that is supposedly 100% all Switzerland?

They do not list Germany or France or any other country on the planet, just the United States (and Switzerland).

" You further agree that for any disputes, actions, claims, or other controversies arising out of or relating in any way to these Terms, your Account, the Services, your use of (or lack of use of) or access to (or lack of access to) your Account or the Services, or any advertising, promotion, or other communications between you and the Company, whether based in contract, warranty, tort, statute, regulation, ordinance, or any other legal or equitable basis, if brought in the United States and found to have jurisdiction in the United States, shall be construed and enforced in accordance with the laws of the state where you reside; provided, however, that the arbitration provisions herein shall be governed by the Federal Arbitration Act and the American Arbitration Association (“AAA”) Consumer Arbitration Rules (the “AAA Rules”), as described more fully below in Section 13.1. "
The answer, by the way, is Proton. - Yes, a business can start in another country, Switzerland, for example, and fall under Us Jurisdiction. To put it another way, some people have dual citizenship, and so can a corporation.

You can find that quote directly on their website:
https://proton.me/legal/terms

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Terms of Service | Proton

Terms of Service for using the proton.me website and your Proton Account, including Proton Mail, Proton Contacts, Proton Calendar, and Proton Drive.

Proton

I’m almost entirely divested from #google.
✅ Chrome ➡️ #Firefox
✅ Chrome PW Manager ➡️ #Bitwarden
✅ Search ➡️ #DuckDuckGo
✅ Drive ➡️ #ProtonDrive
⬜️ Docs ➡️ didn’t use anyway
🟨 Gmail ➡️ #ProtonMail
❌ Calendar ➡️ #ProtonCalendar 😢
❓ Forms ➡️ ❓

I don’t use forms except to survey my soccer team about upcoming seasons. Obv google’s is nice as it ports easily to sheets, but I want out.

Those w/ experience w/ #CryptPad, how is it? How would it work for my use case?

#opensource #privacy

Benutzt hier jemand etwas der Nachstehenden und wenn ja, was ist eure Erfahrung/Meinung?
#protonmail #tutamail #protoncalendar #tutacalendar
Proton Mail
66.7%
Proton Kalender
33.3%
Tuta Mail
0%
Tuta Kalender
0%
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So, #protonmail and #protoncalendar are kind of garbage. Anyone have any workarounds?
@rlcw have a look on the #protoncalendar ..... #proton
Es gibt also noch Hoffnung für einen funktionierenden #OfflineMode bei #Proton: [...] And even more on the horizon: Tasks, search, and offline mode - To support much-requested features like tasks, search capabilities, and offline access, we’ve started work on our next generation of Proton Calendar apps for iOS and Android, which we aim to release toward the end of 2025. [...] https://proton.me/blog/mail-calendar-product-roadmap-winter #ProtonMe #ProtonMail #ProtonCalendar #iOS #ProtonSecurity
Proton Mail and Proton Calendar winter product roadmap | Proton

Preview upcoming updates to Proton Mail and Proton Calendar, including performance boosts, new features, and enhanced privacy tools.

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A company truly outside Us Jurisdiction does NOT have terms and conditions concerning Us Customer and Us Laws, because they do not need them, because they do not apply to them. The same way, they do not need to include the other 200 or so, nations around the world.

It is rocket science. This is not hard to understand.

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" 200 or so, countries world-wide, and they only include terms and cite laws, that they know apply to them. "So many corporate simps ignore this little fact.

Do you see Proton cite terms for Japan or Korea, or any other friendly nation? No, because Proton is only subject to the laws where they are a registered business. Proton only (and others like them) worries about the ones that apply to them, and they include the United States of America for a reason.

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