smeikx1d ago

I wish I could switch to a completely slop-free editor without compromising my workflow too much.

Helix would be a great alternative: Its mappings seem a bit more consistent than Vim’s, also it has Tree-sitter, LSP and fuzzy pickers already built-in. But it lacks some features (digraphs, extensibility, folding – in that order).

I also had a look at Kakoune, which also seems alright, but I don’t like that tabs and splits are delegated to the terminal emulator, a multiplexer or window manager. I respect that decision, but I’d prefer that feature to be built-in.

For now, I’ll stick to Neovim. At least they have a policy that makes LLM users check and sanitise the generated code (https://github.com/neovim/neovim/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#ai-assisted-work), although I’d prefer if they’d outright ban it.

#Vim #Neovim #nvim #Helix #Kakoune #FOSS #slopocalypse

Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 2d ago

@sotolf @thedoctor @paul @mirabilos

I think #kakoune tries to bridge the gap between user-friendly and "power-user-friendly" (to attempt to sum up what you were saying into a single term).

Unfortunately, it broke some muscle memory for me, and was therefore a non-starter.

Not hating on the project, I think it's brilliant. I just personally can't use a vi-like editor that isn't a pretty strict superset of vi keybinds.

LiamMar 9

Anyone know if #kakoune 's Clippy-like helper has a name?

I'm exploring and if they're gonna keep popping up in my face, I need a name to yell.

..also in order to thank them for actually useful information.

aburka 🫣Mar 9
Anyone know #kakoune's AI policy?
Bryan (he/him) 🇺🇸 🏳️‍🌈Dec 19

Which CLI text editor do you use? If you don't use Nano, Vim, or Emacs, what do yo use?

#GNULinux #GNU #Linux #cli #editor #emacs #vi #vim #nano #helix #neovim #kakoune #JOE #zile #vis #ne #niceeditor #ed #mg #tilde #amp #mle #slap #ash #Debian #Arch #poll

Emacs
30.1%
Nano
13.3%
Vim
41.3%
Something else?
15.3%
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Show threadkenran_Oct 19

Tiny steps, 15 minutes of tinkering each day or so. I'm finally getting the hang of what a workflow using Kakoune could look like.

Now to actually learn the editing model, and fill the workflow gaps (equivalent to quickfix list, etc).

#kakoune

Poznańska Impreza Wolnego OprogramowaniaOct 17

Od ed po Kakoune - ewolucja terminalowych edytorów tekstu – Grzegorz Płaczek, Tymoteusz Jagła – P.I.W.O. 2025

https://tube.pol.social/w/gpkH7Us4cUqg2K9q219dGk

Od ed po Kakoune - ewolucja terminalowych edytorów tekstu – Grzegorz Płaczek, Tymoteusz Jagła – P.I.W.O. 2025

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P.I.W.O. PoznańOct 17

🎥 Od ed po Kakoune - ewolucja terminalowych edytorów tekstu – Grzegorz Płaczek, Tymoteusz Jagła

Wykład poświęcony edytorowi ed i jego powiązaniom z Vimem. Uczestnicy poznają także nowoczesne edytory, takie jak Helix i Kakoune.

👉 YouTube: https://youtu.be/kMAVT-bZmQ8
👉 PeerTube: https://tube.pol.social/w/gpkH7Us4cUqg2K9q219dGk

#PIWO #PIWO2025 #Ed #Kakoune #Vi #Vim #NeoVim #Helix

Show threadkenran_Oct 17

Getting ergonomic keybindings interacting with, say, tmux panes, requires a good read of the Kakoune documentation on commands, kakrc, mappings etc. Having to learn about this early on can feel like a hurdle, but also now I'm much more ready to bend it to my liking right after.

#kakoune

Show threadkenran_Oct 17

Settled on always using it inside tmux. Now fzf-tmux can be used to open in a split. That's enough to be usable to me.

Also Kakoune itself integrates with tmux very well out of the box: for instance, :new spawns a Kakoune client attached to the same session in a new tmux window by default.

#kakoune #tmux