"We’re stuck with this mental model where we think industrialized, rich countries in the West are where the emissions mostly come from. That was true a generation ago. That’s how it was in 1970—70% of emissions came from rich countries, and about a third came from the developing world. Now, that’s flipped. It’s actually just 30% of emissions that come from rich countries, and almost all the new emissions are coming from developing countries. I mean, China and India are an important part of that, but the rest of the developing world is, too. The really important part of this is when you look at emissions growth, because emissions are falling in the developed countries—slowly, but they are falling. But in the developing world, they’re growing really fast. So for every one ton of carbon dioxide that the rich countries stopped emitting in the last 15 or 17 years, developing countries have added five. It just puts a different perspective on the way we talk about emissions reductions
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I don’t really have a lot of leverage over decision-making in Indonesia and in Brazil and in China and in the places where emissions are continuing to grow, where they’re still building coal-powered power plants. So it brings me to this realization that I think a lot of people resist, because we haven’t been taught to think about it this way—but we need to come around to understanding that emissions reductions are: A) outside of our control—the ones that really matter—because they’re not in the countries where the people who listen to this podcast live, mostly; and B) they’re just not going to be enough. So we need to look at other pathways to make the climate safe for everybody. And they do exist. It’s just that we don’t usually talk about them so much because we’ve gotten conditioned to think about climate as an emissions-reduction problem, which is actually a small part of it."

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