@steve_m I guess without a cooler it'll be wiser to do #10BaseT instead for longterm stability...

Now some folks may say: "Why don't you just get a regular-ass #AUI like a #NormalPerson?"

1. Simply because noone but the most tech-masochistic folks want to deal with like #coax cables, #VampireTaps, huge #MAUI boxes and rare vintage stuff + overhead to get a slow & underwhelming network experience. Pretty shure neither @ncommander nor @TechTangents would either.

2. The few late-era #10BaseT-based AUIs do exist but they are long out of production and thus quite expensive. And if you are on #10Base2 or even #10Base5 good luck finding a still working #switch that isn't sold by a #scalper like #ersazza way above #MSRP+#inflation!

3 An AUI is just an Interface port / media converter similar to #SFP & GBIC and necessitates a NIC already inside the machine.

4. AUIs are not just long outdated but also way more inflexible, whereas basically anything from an #Apple2 up to the latest #Android-#Tablet can be adapted cheaply to do #RS232 #serial and send AT commands to a #Modem.

5. Twisted-Pair Ethernet is cheap, commonplace and still supported and pretty much forwards- and backwards compatible. 10BaseT will run on Cat.3 but also on Cat.5 and even Cat.8 cables (In case one wants to hookup a vintage computer on a 40GBase-T port for no reason but to see if the switch does negotiate proper 10Base-T.

6. Because it's useful...

7. as said before: AUI port would be nice to have but not necessary...

8. it would allow Network access similar to #dialup abeit without the need for existing #PSTN infrastructure like @c3isdn has...

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@foone well, @stman is working on a #10BaseT - #Ethernet "'modem" that connects via #RS232 #serial, which IMHO is a needed necessity given not everyone wants to setup #WiFi and that the #WiFi232 by @paulrickards seems to be constantly sold out...

As LGR and MVG showcased it...

Also such a "modem" can be powered via #PoE since there are ample of PoE splitters, making this even better...

WiFi232 Wireless Modem: BBS Fun on Retro PCs!

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@polpo potentially...

I really want to get my hands on the #Hand386 amd #Book8088 simply because they are nifty machines...

All I need for those would be an #ISA-based dock with stuff like the #TexElec #QuadFlop and ISA #XTIDE controller and some #Ethernet card that does at least #10BaseT...

@JohannessNilsson but #i486 should be possible.

Tho I'm convinced that a #boot-#floppy for #network-#boot (via #PXE) would be an acceptable alternative given that #10BaseT will be faster than the theoretical maximum of your 8x CD-ROM by quite a margin.

Also it would allow you to have actual local computing capabilities and only outsorce storage if there is no space or option to hook up some flash drive via adaptor polonaise (M.2 B-Key->SATA->IDE)...

@amyengineer pretty shure that thing won't go beyond #10BaseT speeds!

前篇聊到了 #10BASE2
這篇來聊一下另外一個 10Mbps 的接取標準 #10base5

其實在過去有另外一個說法
10Base2 被稱為 #thinnet
而 10Base5 稱為 #thicknet
後者比前者約 5 年以前推出
兩者都是使用同軸電纜
並且都運行在 10Mbps

而 10Base5 使用的電纜線更加的粗
在使用上 10Base5 的概念更像是幹線的存在
同樣與 10Base2 一樣可以讓多個節點運行在同一個內網內
不過接取的方式有很大的不同

接入網路的接頭不是使用 #BNC 而是 #N端子 以外
還有另外一個接取方式稱為 #吸血鬼接口 Vampire tap
使用端子對同軸線纜進行穿刺再由收發器轉接為 #AUI 接口
電腦或是終端裝置再透過 AUI 線再接到 #網路卡

而後來 10Base2 出現
由於其低成本、線纜鋪設難度低以及接取的方式也簡單的多
也讓 10Base5 快速的退市

#10BaseT 的出現讓同軸電纜開始慢慢退出區域網路接取標準

#Allen講看看
#台灣Vtuber #Vtubers #Vtuber #Taiwan

@hackernews original #Ethernet like 10MBit/s #10BaseT?

Interesting...
Pretty shure something @stman wants to archive.