@thomholwerda I can relate to that. I have several (among which an HP 9000/712 running 10.20). Probably the worst thing with HP is de site-locked development licenses. I have gcc for my 712, but you can't compile much outside some command line tools. HP didn't ship all header files as standard, so anything that uses X is impossible to compile. I understand there should be 'unlocked' versions. What would it cost HP to just release those after all these years.