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@404mediaco So... Lawsuit in 10, 9, 8...

Meta's AI Model 'Memorized' Huge Chunks of Books, Including 'Harry Potter' and '1984'

🔗 https://www.404media.co/meta-ai-model-memorized-harry-potter-books/

Meta's AI Model 'Memorized' Huge Chunks of Books, Including 'Harry Potter' and '1984'

Researchers found Meta’s popular Llama 3.1 70B has a capacity to recite passages from 'The Sorcerer's Stone' at a rate much higher than could happen by chance.

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a very agreeable moth indeed

#Mothtodon #Mothday #Moth #MondayMoth

I don’t care what side you think you’re on, anyone whose take on immigration is ‘immigrants take away American jobs’ is not a good person
@glassbottommeg blizzzzzzz...
I assume that when you stare in to THIS void, there's audio description.
So anyway Coke Zero makes me gassy af.
I am so tired of apps. So very tired of them.
I love inspiring yall with my passion for [topic]
Recently Mark Zuckerberg announced Meta was building an AI data center so large its size would be equivalent to a significant part of Manhattan. What Zuckerberg did not mention was the constructions of 3 new Meta-subsidized, gas power plants https://www.404media.co/a-black-hole-of-energy-use-metas-massive-ai-data-center-is-stressing-out-a-louisiana-community/
'A Black Hole of Energy Use': Meta's Massive AI Data Center Is Stressing Out a Louisiana Community

Details about how Meta's nearly Manhattan-sized data center will impact consumers' power bills are still secret.

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"A cyclist is a disaster for the country's economy: he does not buy cars and does not borrow money to buy. He does not pay for insurance policies. He does not buy fuel, does not pay for the necessary maintenance and repairs. He does not use paid parking. He does not cause serious accidents. He does not require multi-lane highways. He does not get fat.
Healthy people are neither needed nor useful for the economy. They don't buy medicine. They do not go to hospitals or doctors. Nothing is added to the country's GDP (gross domestic product).
On the contrary, every new McDonald's restaurant creates at least 30 jobs: 10 cardiologists, 10 dentists, 10 dietary experts and nutritionists, and obviously, people who work at the restaurant itself."
Choose carefully: cyclist or McDonald's? It is worth considering.
P.S. Walking is even worse. Pedestrians don't even buy bicycles.
P.P.S. If you have read this far and still don't get it, this post is SATIRE. Reread it with this in mind.
Understanding ‘underconsumption core’: How a new trend is challenging consumer culture

‘Underconsumption core’ is a trend that challenges overconsumption by encouraging people to maximize the utility of their purchases and buy only what they truly need.

The Conversation

@MarkHoltom

And what now? Ban cycling?

Und was jetzt? Radfahren verbieten?

@HaWeCom @MarkHoltom

Subtiler. Einfach X tote Radfahrer pro Jahr produzieren und die Infrastruktur überall extrem diskriminierend gestalten.

Eigentlich beschreibt das den Status Quo ganz gut.

@MarkHoltom Retooted for the last line! Yep, walking is definitely the worst. I do it every chance I can :D

@MarkHoltom That’s a nice quote, but there is more to it than that. The money saved from cycling will typically go to other things like going to the hairdresser or restaurants more often.

https://bikeportland.org/2012/07/06/study-shows-biking-customers-spend-more-74357

Study shows biking customers spend more

Survey results suggest that patrons who arrive by automobile do not necessarily convey greater monetary benefits to businesses than bicyclists, transit users, or pedestrians. — From TR News articleDoes your mode of transportation have any relationship to how much you spend at restaurants and bars? T

BikePortland
@eriksandblom @MarkHoltom Yes, and also you buy more shampoo 😁
@eriksandblom but this doesn't fill the pockets of the car manufacturers etc. 💩 @MarkHoltom
@funbaker they can build bicycles to earn a living @eriksandblom @MarkHoltom
@eriksandblom @MarkHoltom most importantly. The spend on cars largely going out of the local community and off to multinational companies whereas the spend by cyclists is mostly on local companies and services.
@jessta @MarkHoltom Yes. Thank you for pointing this out. It is important to consider, not least when someone says we need a new freeway to ”stimulate the economy”.
@jessta always baffles me when city council preferences car companies to local companies
@MarkHoltom This is the reverse case of the broken window fallacy. What cyclists do not spend one way, they spend in other areas.
To the best of our knowledge, the net impact of cycling on GDP is positive, because cyclists are more productive (because healthier).

@MathieuP

But they spend their money the wrong way. Nothing goes to big business like car companies, construction industry (suburbian sprawl!), banks, pharma and healthcare etc.

And they lead a less resource intense life - that's not okay from a growth paradigm perspective.
Seriously, that's bad for capitalism.

@MarkHoltom

@stekopf @MarkHoltom
Sorry, but this is not the way growth accounting works. Economic growth is producing more with the same amount of inputs, or less. When I avoid filling my car fuel tank and buy an album on Bandcamp instead, I create growth: there are less market-traded inputs for an additional copy of the album than for a tank of gasoline.
Notice the same holds if I replace the album with an Amazon Prime subscription.
@stekopf @MarkHoltom There are many good reasons to cycle (full disclosure: I either bike or skate to work), but fighting capitalism is not one of them. Capitalism as perfectly integrated bicycle as a mass transportation mode in the past, and can perfectly do so again in the future.
In the current setting, I'd wager that switching from car transportation to biking increases growth (because of the healths benefits).

@MathieuP @MarkHoltom

Your point is, if I don't spend my money for a car (+ its ecosystem) then I spend my money otherwise - with a similar result?

My point is, if you don't spend your money for a car (+ its ecosystem), then you don't need so much money to make a good living.

If you travel more, buy a house etc., then you set the saving off. Then there is no effect on growth.
But if you decide to just work less (or not more, if you don't have a car yet) then this has an effect on growth.

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My "anti-capitalism" narrative was not related to my first sentence "But they spend their money the wrong way.". It is releated only to the "less resource-intense life" from the 2nd paragraph. ;)

And ofc cycling can work in capitalism - that's not the point. But it reduces the recources you consume for a necessity of life, transportation.
But the times you probably are referring to we were on a lower GDP level - or looking at 🇳🇱, they are not cannibalising a car industry with promoting 🚲.

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@stekopf I understand.
Cycling can fit in a degrowth lifestyle. My concern is that the initial quote of the thread implies it causes a reduction in growth, which is false unless you, as you aptly point out, consciously integrate it in a change of your consumption habits (empirically, most people will not work less, but consume other things).

@MathieuP

Yes, consumerism is strong in our society.
We need a change in lifestyles - changing to a less expensive travel mode can help question other problematic (overly expensive, extractive, harmful) habits.
But it's a long way.

@MathieuP @stekopf @MarkHoltom

"Economic growth is producing more with the same amount of inputs, or less."

This is a curious definition of growth. Wouldn't it suffice to end the sentence at "more", i.e. "economic growth is producing more"?

@MathieuP @stekopf @MarkHoltom

What some people may take issue with in regards to the input is that economics often only concerns itself with money, as you hinted at by adding an adjective "market-traded". The input being a unique ecosystem being destroyed or a non-renewable resource cannot be reduced to a monetary valuation though.

@MathieuP @stekopf @MarkHoltom

How can you be sure there are less inputs for a copy of a Bandcamp album or an Amazon Prime subscription than for an equally-priced amount of gasoline? The digital world has a very real physical footprint in terms of materials and energy.

@MarkHoltom that healthy people bit feels rather ableist, like you're blaming my disability on my lack of cycling (personally the link is the other way, fyi)

Likewise the bit about maccas ignores the influence of food deserts and poverty

@Dangerous_beans @MarkHoltom it's genuinely impressive* how many aspects of passive eugenics have been jammed into one relatively short, mostly plagerised toot.

*pejorative

@Dangerous_beans inb4 @MarkHoltom starts accusing us of being his ex wife's solicitors 

@Dangerous_beans @MarkHoltom despite being old and plagerised, this toot has excellent timing.

It's a very concise encapsulation of the RFK jr Make America Healthy Again philosophy: advanced lifesaving medical systems, including all specialists, should be replaced with good old fashioned wholesome food and outdoor exercise.

It feels nice and crunchy in the brain, like fascist rhetoric so often does.

@coolandnormal @Dangerous_beans @MarkHoltom yeah, the RFK-style rhetoric is really dangerous, harmful. Strong bike networks are critical infrastructure as well - even benefitting those who don’t cycle
@Dangerous_beans @MarkHoltom Thank you. I cycle daily but I have high blood pressure anyway.
@MarkHoltom Where’s that quote from?
@arratoon @MarkHoltom the actual origin is unclear. It's very popular on LinkedIn and Facebook, has been for many years. It's attributed to several different people, no one owns up to actually writing it. Like a less successful equivalent of the classic "one marijuana in the butt" post.
@coolandnormal @MarkHoltom Yeah, while the sentiments might be nice, I’m calling shenanigans.

@arratoon

Words attributed to General Director of Euro Exim Bank

@MarkHoltom

This must have been written by AI. It doesn’t make a point or make sense. Quoted from where, I ask.

@DziadekMick @MarkHoltom I can't find any reputable fact checkers that have done the legwork on this one. It starts appearing on social media in early 2020 mostly attributed to Sanjay Thakrar, CEO Euro Exim Bank (who is real but isn't the CEO: https://theorg.com/org/euro-exim-bank/org-chart/dr-sanjay-thakrar)
Dr Sanjay Thakrar - Head Of Global Strategy And Leadership at Euro Exim Bank | The Org

Dr. Sanjay Thakrar worked at Euro Exim Bank as Head of Global Strategy and Leadership since August 2022.

THE ORG

@phlash @MarkHoltom

Whoever started this has wasted their time. It’s rubbish.

For example, Cyclists have cars too. Their accident rate is a *drain* on the economy. The NHS wouldn’t need to employ in those numbers even if it had the money.

It’s a pointless f/ing post that has made me annoyed.

@DziadekMick @phlash @MarkHoltom NHS spending is not a drain on the economy as calculated by GDP. It boosts GDP.

If you have other, private, ways of calculating the size of the economy, good for you, but GDP is what people mean when they talk about the size of the economy. And that is the point of this text: unnecessary spending boosts the measure that is used, making politicians optimise for it, regardless of how stupid it is.

@MarkHoltom The bastards probably don't buy supermarket ready meals or sugary drinks either.
@wyliecoyoteuk @MarkHoltom I buy instant soups for bikepacking, and yes, I do my shopping in supermarkets, because of my limited budget. It's different lifestyle. But economy still emerges... you still need resources, just maybe less of them... 
@xChaos @MarkHoltom I was 😃 joking.
@xChaos @MarkHoltom I must confess to growing a lot of my own food, and I don't buy preprepared stuff, always cook from scratch. Oh and low carb diet, so basically 3/4 of the supermarket is bypassed .
We have an excellent butcher in the village as well.
@MarkHoltom as a bicycle mechanic I recommend to invest in the maintenance of your bicycle. In our workshop we have 10 people repairing bicycles
@MarkHoltom Actually cyclists are good for the countries real economy, as we clearly need to shrink non-productive and energy intensive GDP.
However I'm not convinced that it's sensible not to insure my bike, though, of course, there is no legal requirement to do so. There is no requirement to wear a helmet either but I do both.

@MarkHoltom

There are fat Cyclists. Stop it with the fat phobia.

@MarkHoltom I think this is humour (or humor if you prefer) and I hope some of these comments are tongue in cheek too 🙂.

@wisegreyowl

THANK YOU.

As they say, it is never funny if you have to explain the joke,

The sad thing is that most of the responses are not tongue in cheek.

@MarkHoltom I'm honestly surprised at home many of the commenters seem to feel personally attacked by this clear work of satire

@trainguyrom

First, they have to understand that this was a work of satire - and some people obviously can't do that

@MarkHoltom @wisegreyowl

I now understand you meant it as satire. I have heard every on of these arguments in real life, so it doesn't really land as humor for me.

@MarkHoltom
You remember "Look Mum, no hands" ?

Here, it's more a case of no sufficiently irritated brain.

But why..?

Marcus Reynolds (@MarcusMASTO@mas.to)

Stop buying things and start talking to each other. Catherynne M. Valente in an article titled “Stop Talking to Each Other and Start Buying Things: Three Decades of Survival in the Desert of Social Media” dated 22 December 2022 available on SubStack https://catvalente.substack.com/p/stop-talking-to-each-other-and-start

mas.to
@MarkHoltom And I ride very old used bicycles and do repairs with used parts (if applicable). I am a bad person. 😆
@frank you'd be worse only if you walked instead of riding a bicycle. (Thank you for doing your worst in order to help the planet and us with it).
@MarkHoltom