Dan BlickensderferWelcome to @clintlalonde
Clint Lalonde (he/him)@Dan_Blick thanks. Feels very Tweetdeck-ish right now. You know anyone who is running their own instance of this?
@clintlalonde I'm working to get one setup this week. I've also been experimenting with talking to mastodon.social programmatically.
Robin DeRosa@Dan_Blick @clintlalonde So if you make an "instance" it still somehow talks to the larger platform? I am trying so hard to wrap my small bookish brain around this.
@actualham @Dan_Blick Exactly. Esentially, you could host your own instance of Mastodon (like you have your own website) and it would connect to other instances of Mastodon. potential best of both worlds - you get to own your own data AND get the network effects of distributed network. That's the theory anyway.
Tanya **moved**@clintlalonde @actualham @Dan_Blick @dnorman
I'm conflicted on this one...The idea of having your own instance fits in with the idea of student-centered learning data I've been thinking about.
But I increasingly worry about losing the idea of communal areas. To me, "mine that I choose to share" is different than "ours."
Kate@Tdorey @clintlalonde @actualham @Dan_Blick @dnorman I worry too that things divide quickly between those who can host and those who can't. Or is the vision that everyone has a Server of One's Own? (@econproph) is this what we need? (Why?)
To me this looks more and more like the housing market, with a divide between owners and renters. So then who feels at home? Who is more vulnerable?
Adam Croom@katebowles @Tdorey @dnorman @econproph @actualham @Dan_Blick @clintlalonde I'm concerned about the general feasibility of this model. Do we know anybody in ed that is self hosting?
@acroom you mean this app specifically? Not that I know of. But for others, there are groups that are trying to advocate that higher ed should have a bigger role in supporting these types of applications and tools https://edtech.bccampus.ca/bc-open-educational-technology-collaborative/ @Tdorey @dnorman @katebowles @econproph @actualham @Dan_Blick
@katebowles @Tdorey @actualham @Dan_Blick @dnorman @econproph This is where IT needs to step up and play a bigger role with educational technology. Move beyond being procurers of systems & enabling. It used to be a role for higher ed to be the hosting service for...well, for the internet. It is a role that higher ed IT has, for the most part, capitulated to others.
This this this 1000 times this -- @clintlalonde: "IT needs to step up and play a bigger role with educational technology...beyond being procurers of systems & enabling...higher ed once acted as host of the Internet...It is a role that higher ed IT has, for the most part, capitulated to others."
@clintlalonde I feel like institutions that have been able to pull off a #DoOO implementation *get* this idea. Would be very interesting to study those cases when compared with Higher Ed IT biznessasusal. The era you (we) are wistfully referring to includes "Tilde Spaces" I think, too. HE IT in the service of connection rather than (solely) administrative management.
Econproph@Dan_Blick @clintlalonde @Tdorey @dnorman @katebowles @actualham Yes, I think a Server-Domain oOO is the eventual goal, but networks, sharing, & exchange of messages is where we're struggling.
The challenges are partly tech and largely institutional structures (who owns & controls - could be individs) and biz model (costs & funding).
The challenges are partly tech and largely institutional structures (who owns & controls - could be individs) and biz model (costs & funding).
@Tdorey @dnorman @katebowles @actualham @Dan_Blick @clintlalonde I have been working on the institutional/biz model issues & trying to learn from my DoOO work here at the school. Questions like how to enable individs to do it in ed w/o the institution backing first. We have to get beyond the techie pioneer 1% that we represent.
I hope to have an announcement/blog posts re: an approach after the new year.
I hope to have an announcement/blog posts re: an approach after the new year.
Very cool; excited to see what you announce/make. Your invids v institutionalize reminds me of @holden's great post(s) about (paraphrasing) individs making things and institutions making things that *last*
@econproph @Tdorey @dnorman @katebowles @actualham @clintlalonde
Patlockley@clintlalonde @Tdorey @dnorman @katebowles @econproph @actualham @Dan_Blick i don't think it is IT, i think that is timescales
Fredrik Graver 🎥🥌@clintlalonde @katebowles @Tdorey @actualham @Dan_Blick @dnorman @econproph I can't express how much I agree with this! A year ago, our IT dept. even shut down our hosted Wordpress blogs. Now they want us all over on Sharepoint.
Jason Green@clintlalonde @katebowles @Tdorey @actualham @Dan_Blick @dnorman @econproph Playing Devil's Advocate as an IT employee, why is Sharepoint not OK for this?
@jasongreen @Tdorey @dnorman @katebowles @actualham @Dan_Blick @clintlalonde Spkg fr my school's experience: 1) learning curve too steep for avg user. If you need to train on it, something's not right. I get folks using WP 2-3 pgs of 3 step directions. 2)it's too configured to be locked down UN-sharing by default (might only be our implementation) 3) in the whole Office365 mix, I can't figure out which app for what. 4) seems more oriented to be firewalled intranet solution