@jaklumen @Tdorey @actualham @Dan_Blick @fgraver @Autumm I feel we don't talk nearly enough about introversion in networks. I'm the same. My head fills up and I stop thinking. @mahabali has thought about this a bit too.
So I'm really interested in what makes a network hospitable to both introverts and extroverts by design?
@Dan_Blick @mahabali @Tdorey @katebowles @actualham @Autumm @jaklumen These are interesting questions. I'm an introvert, fairly shy, and quite familiar with "impostor syndrome". I've learned to live with all these things, but they combine to make me avoid social gatherings with people I don't know well.
Online is different. I can jump in here in a way I would never dream of irl.
@Dan_Blick @mahabali @Tdorey @katebowles @actualham @fgraver @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen Having met Pat in person I can vouch that he is as far from scary as you can get (sorry for blowing your cover).
I like that online the mirrors of our selves can have all kinds of curvatures of distortion. We say identity like its a fixed quantity. A student once described for her it was an iris (as in opening) that we change its dimensions in different contexts.
@lauraritchie @fgraver @Tdorey @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen I have colleagues developing this kind of VR environment. I think we're all reflecting on what constitutes MVP: minimum viable presence.
(Yes, I read that College MVP article. I think we do need to keep an eye on the deterioration of some established public roads and the privatisation of others, whatever paths we make by going off-road.)
@fgraver @katebowles @lauraritchie @Tdorey @mahabali @actualham @Dan_Blick @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen It's easy to make Second Life, jokes it had many probs.
When I worked at NMC we ran many virtual conferences- ppl stayed much longer between sessions. There was social "presence" you pay attention to proximity to others. Audio volume was spatial, ppl farther away are quieter.
Biggest tell- ppl were physically embarrassed when they accidentally disrobed avatar in public.
@fgraver @katebowles @lauraritchie @Tdorey @mahabali @actualham @Dan_Blick @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen I have loads of old SL stories. Client asked us not to put a virtual snake in virtual river near virtual space the rented from us, they had real fear of snakes.
I participated in HR training role play on discrimination as applicant who gets angry when after being offered job, was told I have to change my non human avatar (I was a dog, doh).
See also https://vimeo.com/1210161
@Tdorey @lauraritchie @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @fgraver @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen This was my experience of federated wiki -- the asynchronous leaving and finding of tiny idea notes. I was really compelled by this, enough to struggle with the functions given my poor tech skills.
I think it's something to consider here. A slow-moving makerspace of ideas.
Studio.
@Tdorey @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @Patlockley @jaklumen This is really a reply to @clhendricksbc about branching paths. On a laptop, I like that every new thought in this conversation jumps right back to @actualham's original comment about stepping away and coming back.
It feels as though mastodon comes with a longer memory for a thread once you find it; but harder to find it.
@clhendricksbc @Tdorey @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @Patlockley @jaklumen This is *exactly* the question I went over and over with federated wiki.
If I wrote something, and someone forked it, but then someone else forked it, the branching paths could never find each other again. And after a while I found myself grieving these lost connections.
Is there a way to map the garden of branching paths?
@katebowles @clhendricksbc @Tdorey @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @Autumm @Patlockley @jaklumen for some reason the phrase "to map the garden of branching paths" sent me right back to my days as a 13-15-y.o. when I played lots of D&D...
But I agree, some sort of map would be useful. I prefer the Mastadon structure to that of G+, for example, following conversations can be challenging.
@Tdorey @katebowles @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen An edit function would be useful...
That last sentence should start "*While* I prefer..."
@lauraritchie That's odd. I haven't tried the app yet; I've never acquired the habit of using social media on my phone.
I was thinking about hashtags. It requires discipline on our part, but searching by hash tag is simple, and it will keep all discussions together. Might not always get the first couple of posts, but could be a decent donkey workaround, @mahabali called it :)
@katebowles @clhendricksbc @Tdorey @mahabali @actualham @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @Patlockley @jaklumen
A question is- do you want a system, with algorithms, to make maps for us, or do we do the work to make our own maps?
@actualham @Tdorey @katebowles @mahabali @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen
Not sure what you hope for, but we are born with a technology, wrapped inside a grey electric lump enclosed in a bone carrying case.
From a few days of conversations, experiences at the Open Ed conference, don't we make neural maps of conversations? Do we need every conversation recorded, indexed, to build memories?
@lauraritchie @katebowles @actualham @clhendricksbc I cannot imagine what it would be like to have a memory imparement; situational memory is very important to me. When I worked in film I was a 1st AD (http://howtofilmschool.com/working-as-a-1st-assistant-director/) where the crew relied on my being able to remember, interpret, and act upon a vast amount of information.
But: remembering that much also means non-immediate things get shoved aside.
@Tdorey @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen There's a map of branching paths that is findable here because we return every time to @actualham's source post but can set out differently. I just want the signposts to be easier to see.
I wanted something like this in fed wiki also. Tracks to follow, away from and back to main branching paths. Look, someone stopped here. Two people walked over there a while.
@Dan_Blick @Tdorey @katebowles @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen
THIS STREAM THOUGH!
How we envision our:
self/selves
other/s
path/s
studio/s
interiority/exteriority (real words?)
connection/s
identity/identities
So rich. Was away for a few days.
Great to be back y'all.
And yes, such deeper convos than on teh twitterz.
Its such an entirely diff space and one that I can see great uses for.
Hope streams always lead back to OP.
@katebowles @mahabali @cogdog @actualham @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen So time ago Gardner Campbell mentioned wanting something similar for web searching... *Someone* offered some suggestions. I was going to go back through the tweets to see if I could *remember* what tools/ types of visual presentations they had suggested. Also thinking about SNAPP tool. Twine is also on the list now :)
Just need time...And probably better coding skills.. sigh..
@katebowles @Tdorey @mahabali @cogdog @Dan_Blick @lauraritchie @fgraver @Autumm @clhendricksbc @Patlockley @jaklumen "A slow-moving makerspace of ideas.
Studio."
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