Bob MottramMastodon proposes another non-private privacy scheme. I don't think this leads anywhere good, other than users ending up confused and sometimes doxed. Times are tough, and fake privacy may really put some people in danger. Mastodon doesn't need to do all the things, and most people are already using good enough private chat systems which genuinely implement public key encryption. Just add a way of linking to that.
Eugen Rochko@bob Have you read this https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/4208 before writing this message?
Paul Free (14 Ⓐ, europe)@Gargron @bob
what's the reason for not using #xmpp?
why to do it:
- encrypted conversation possilbe
- it is used on other plattforms, so you easly could speak to each other (it's already used by nextcloud, and friendica)
- ppl can join other chat channels
(MOC, IRC, matrix....)
- it is a wide spread standart, so more likly that other plattforms will follow using it as a chat system
that's how it looks in nextcloud: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/ojsxc
c0rdis ✅for those not knowing #xmpp or #matrix.
both are chat standarts which allow encrypted conversations.
Also there are many great chatrooms ppl could join by that through mastodon.
The approach of matrix is a federated chatsystem allowing even voice calls.
The fediverse would come by using one of those standarts more connected, and ppl could even chat with ppl not using mastodon.
Thoughts? Like it? Boost it...
House of Pears 🍐@paulfree14
It already is here on Mastodon.host
It already is here on Mastodon.host
Mike 🍻@paulfree14 #xmpp would be a great fit, I'm looking at my setup right now to try getting Mastodon and Prosody on a common password store. Then any JID like [email protected] instantly equates to fediverse ID that my users can just log right into if they want.
Paul Free (14 Ⓐ, ♥, europe)@paulfree14 @paulfree14 not really I have to admit, it always looked a bit redundant to me.
@paulfree14 @paulfree14 Yeah, I've read that and I've seen the debates (they do tend to bring out the worst in people for sure). It does seem like each point comes with a solution though, and I don't see any problem Matrix solves for me that I'd want to deploy a whole new service for.
The two things #XMPP needs are better client software and a catchier name.
Muto 👁@mike @paulfree14 @paulfree14
the main reason for me is I have no friend I would use #Matrix with, if I had I would probably give it a try
also I bother #Riot tracking its users although it doesn't in F-Droid Version. at least it is or gets an independend Foundation now which was another point of criticism for me
the main reason for me is I have no friend I would use #Matrix with, if I had I would probably give it a try
also I bother #Riot tracking its users although it doesn't in F-Droid Version. at least it is or gets an independend Foundation now which was another point of criticism for me
@paulfree14 @mike @Muto
well you don't need to start with your friends to enter into matrix. It as federated open chat rooms. That what it makes interesting to me. For pure personal conversations matrix isn't needed.
well you don't need to start with your friends to enter into matrix. It as federated open chat rooms. That what it makes interesting to me. For pure personal conversations matrix isn't needed.
joemaro@paulfree14 i guess it's always good to spread the word about all the good software there is. Did you use #matrix? i just read about it once quite a while back...
@paulfree14 @joemaro
yes using it beside many other ppl.
you should definatly give it a try.
there is even a mostodon channel on #matrix! :)
yes using it beside many other ppl.
you should definatly give it a try.
there is even a mostodon channel on #matrix! :)
@paulfree14 i think i actually tried the weechat plugin, but it didn't work, and i didn't want another standalone client back then. Just saw now that there's a pidgin plugin, might as well try that :)
@paulfree14 @joemaro
you mean a plugin to have #matrix available within #mastodon.
or a just for youself?
I use riot for the last case
you mean a plugin to have #matrix available within #mastodon.
or a just for youself?
I use riot for the last case
@paulfree14 Pidgin is a chat-client for many different networks. i use it mainly for xmpp/jabber ... so i'm looking for a way to use pidgin for connecting to matrix ... just can't remember my account things and can't find where to get a new one :P
@paulfree14 so for the moment i won't use #matrix, because the clients are too bloaty for me ... too many dependencies .... also the terminal client doesn't work... will maybe try the weechat plugin again in the future.