Eniko Foxdamn. valve is at the mercy of industry players that dwarf them to such an extent they just have to deal with whatever they're being charged for access to the market?
that sounds rough. can't imagine what that's like
anyway check out our gay fox girl platforming game: https://kitsunegames.com/kitsunetails
you can get it on steam, but weirdly i get a lot more money if you get it on itch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sophie of Ratsnake Games@eniko (it's because itch doesn't invest money in moderating their platform, having customer support, or making sure their software works
and if you reply to this to argue that i cannot criticize itch's complete lack of functional customer support because Steam is also shit about removing hate, i'm gonna block ya. two companies can suck at once.)
some kind of orange shape@ratsnakegames obviously steam's moderation and customer support are unimpeachable
@clayote at least they HAVE support which occasionally does things.
0x0961h@ratsnakegames @eniko Hmm, last time I checked Steam Community was full of bigoted and racist comments and twitter warriors making sure they piss off solo devs with their sealioning about stupid things for the cheap clout. Steam itself is drowning in ai slop and asset flips, what kind of moderation are we talking about?
@0x0961h @eniko I have personally filed hate speech reports on both platforms. itch.io flat out ignores them. Steam acts on them at least occasionally, albeit inconsistently.
Steam at least has a refund policy in case you get settled with some AI shit. itch.io does not. itch.io also does not react to fraudulent misclassification of AI slop as human-made.
I have published on itch and i have no interest in ignoring their inability to run a company because "but Steam bad".
Binks@0x0961h @ratsnakegames @eniko "Drowing in ai slot and asset flips" where? I've seen like, 2 asset flip games, and steam was one of the first to require ai usage reporting. It really feels like some of you are living in a different reality with the way you talk about Steam. I get that the 30% cut is annoying, but acting like the platform isn't the best option gamers have right now from a purely content and moderation stance is very strange...
@Binks @ratsnakegames @eniko Did you even check the next fest lmao. 90% of it was ai crap. Open your eyes.
@0x0961h @ratsnakegames @eniko ...You have some weird settings. I checked the Next Fest. Tried out a half dozen good games, wishlisted 3. Didn't see a single AI game in my list at all.
PlantagoLabs@ratsnakegames @eniko Don't forget Gabe's giant yacht. Those things don't come cheap.
@plantagolabs @eniko "leafo doesn't have a yacht" is not a great selling point tbh
IAG@ratsnakegames @eniko ah yes, Valve's famously good moderation 
I'm not even a Steam hater but can we be honest with ourselves please?
I'm not even a Steam hater but can we be honest with ourselves please?
@iagondiscord @eniko Steam's moderation sucks but it HAS moderation.
itch.io does not.
fabiosantoscode@eniko pristine take 💫
DelegateVoid@eniko It's the same in the SoC market.
It gets worse though, the vendors in power ask you: What will you make and how many will you sell? Then THEY decide IF they will sell to you or not and if they decide to sell to you, THEY will decide which SoC you get, how many you will get and how much it'll cost you.
Struggled with giants like these for years.
6@delegatevoid @eniko fucking insanity
Mika Happonen@eniko But if they don't like those RAM prices they should just buy from other manufacturers or just make the RAM themselves. /s
@eniko All of that to release a piece of hardware from 2018 that barely runs modern games. And I highly doubt it was designed for retro enthusiasts and lowpoly indie games.
Not for this price.
@0x0961h @eniko What world are ya'll living in where the specs on that machine are "barely able to run modern games"!? That thing MASSIVELY outpaces my gaming PC and I can play brand new games at medium graphics. I really feel like the high-end gaming enthusiast crowd is WAY out of touch with how many "oh, it's only got 6 5Ghz cores? Pah" style comments I've heard. Sounds so much like the "it's a banana, what could it cost, $10?" comments...
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Lou.@eniko I would expect 6 mega yacht and a mc mansion to be enough to start a dram manufacturing plant
Numerfolt
Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg)Clearly, you have no idea of how much it cost nowadays to start a chip manufacturing plant, unless you want it to produce tech from 20 years ago. Even worse, it takes a years to build one from zero.
It costs so much, the biggest players in that market are not opening more of them because they are afraid they are not going to make enough from them before the AI bubble bursts or whatever. Even at the current prices, they are afraid of losing money.
Valve doesn't have nearly enough money or patents to make one.
Kroc Camen@eniko They are gatekeepers to multi-$Billions of revenue in the game industry — actual revenue, not negative revenue that seems to be all the hotness now. The RAM manufacturers are fools for not realising this and I hope it comes back to bite them hard
Night Owl
Brian Jeffears@eniko :steam arises from the burn:
Billy SmithThe RAM manufacturers were busted for operating a cartel, but that was when the laws were being enforced.
I can understand that they want to milk the current bubble while it lasts, but doing that at the expense of their other customers, is a short-sighted business strategy.
Since Valve got into making boxes, the next step might be making components? :D
Blue Cat
Martin Seeger@darthcat It is very hard on a person to see one's own lifetime hobby getting massacred and not reacting emotional.
If faced with a choice of siding either with entitled gamers or with RAM manufacturers: I know which of both still has a soul 😃.
And you have to be aware: what now happens to the gamers will be tomorrow lament of mid sized companies with on-prem IT.
In my professional capacity, I see a lot of budgets currently getting smashed into tiny pieces.
Tofu 
aliceif 
@eniko @tofu this, they're actual scum of the earth who collaborate shadily to make everyone's life worse. repeatedly.
you can start at the Wikipedia article for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal
you can start at the Wikipedia article for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal
Filip M. Nowak@eniko time for revival of Gunpei Yokoi's / nintendo's "withered technology" philosophy, pretty please? :)
an actual bus@eniko lmao, maybe the ram companies want a 30% cut 😂
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jamesfoxbr@eniko AI hate so much