David HoThe fact that this exists blows my mind. The rise of NAND Flash during my adulthood is one of the most astounding technological developments that we take for granted.
Bob Downie@davidho Absolutely! My first PC had a 40MB hard drive, my first laptop a 1000MB hard drive, and now 2TB on a chip smaller than a fingernail.
Dave Freedman
Scott Kingery
Ray McCarthy@geomannie @davidho
My 1st had a 5M Byte HDD as an upgrade.
Even in 1992 plenty of 286s with only 20G MFM HDD.
My Netbook uses 1T SD card user files.
William Shockley, one of a team of three that accidentally* had the first working transistor (they got a Nobel in 1956) held up a Sony Walkman as the thing he most appreciated at a lecture.
[* Other labs used WWII stockpiles of Germanium. Their lab ordered it in small quantities, so it was purer each time.]
A full size SD card can have 2 chips.
TheDyslexicKitchenwitch@davidho YES! so much. (I have one in my cheap regular driver as 1 form of back up AND I have HDD and even older ssds that accumulate together less storage (I had upgraded storage on several devices pre price hikes (lucky me)and I don't toss tech anymore ;) )
Rob Larter@davidho
The external hard disk our research group bought for our first desktop computer 40 years ago was the size of a shoebox and had a capacity of 10MB.
Mind totally blown.
The external hard disk our research group bought for our first desktop computer 40 years ago was the size of a shoebox and had a capacity of 10MB.
Mind totally blown.
UkeleleEric@davidho And to think that my first computer had 16k RAM (which I later upgraded to 48k), and that was perfectly adequate for me to program in (BASIC, a few minor bits of Z80 machine code), and to produce 14 colours, plus black and white.
Calvin Gluck@UkeleleEric @davidho Was it one of Timex Sinclair 1000 or similar models? That was my first computer. :)
Menno Deij - van Rijswijk@davidho I remember saving up and buying two 4MB SO-DIMMMs, happy I could play the most advanced games 30 years ago.
Dr Susi Arnott@davidho Remembering when they needed carrying handles and got so hot you'd turn the radiators off in the office... first one I bought as a freelancer (rather than rent and charge on to client) was £750 for 40GB
#tinydata #whatsinside
#tinydata #whatsinside
oheso
Ewen Bell 📸@davidho
Trying to remember how much we paid for a 10MB HDD in the 90s.
This is like going from the Kitthawke to the A380.
Trying to remember how much we paid for a 10MB HDD in the 90s.
This is like going from the Kitthawke to the A380.
john lehet
Käferexperte Sam (afk)@davidho Had to look up If it rly DOES. But turns out it really is a thing, just a pretty expensive one.
Duncan Blues@davidho my first home computer had (comparatively small for the time) 3" inch floppy disks (that's no typo, 3, not 3.5") with a capacity of 178 kilobytes on each side.
I even still have a few 8" floppies lying around that I saved from being thrown away at university several years back.
Micro SD cards the size of a fingernail with 2 terabytes capacity nowadays are indeed mind blowing.
I even still have a few 8" floppies lying around that I saved from being thrown away at university several years back.
Micro SD cards the size of a fingernail with 2 terabytes capacity nowadays are indeed mind blowing.
Flipper 🐬🏳️🌈
Cegorach
Clement@davidho Another fact is that magnetic tapes are still used today and can store terabytes of data! https://spectrum.ieee.org/why-the-future-of-data-storage-is-still-magnetic-tape https://www.lto.org/roadmap/
draeath
Willem van Ravesteyn@davidho
ongeloofelijk, niet te bevatten, Mijn eerste harddisk had stechts 20 MB.
ongeloofelijk, niet te bevatten, Mijn eerste harddisk had stechts 20 MB.
aproitzYou are totally right. We take too much #technological " #Wonders" for granted.
It goes so fast, we don't take the Time to adore this technological Progress.
👍👏👏👏👏
Steven Willems@davidho I still remember having a classmate showing me an article in EOS magazine about this newly developed tech where a matrix of dots would store all our future data in a very high density. If I recollect well, it was IBM at the time who was showcasing its tech. It blew my mind. Must have been 30~35y ago.
Grumpy Old Techie 🕊️@davidho While everyone is getting all nostalgic, this one is bringing back some good and some bad memories.
Novell good, taking 2 days to format bad.
5 inch, double height
Edit:
676MB
It now functions as a doorstop
Novell good, taking 2 days to format bad.
5 inch, double height
Edit:
676MB
It now functions as a doorstop
Graeme 🏴@grumpyoldtechie @davidho I still have my first 100MB HDD -- same size as your brick! IT's also a doorstop. I remember how amazing it was, at the time....
ĞÖKÜ👻👻™@davidho lol I have 3 (2TB) card from black market at very cheap price 😁😁. One for my device.. One for backup (movies music photos)... One for emergency 🤣
trainguyrom@GOKUSHRM @davidho I'm sure others have warned you already, but these are often *not* anywhere near the stated capacity. They'll hack the firmware to start overwriting older files once it runs out of real capacity, so its likely in actuality a low quality 64gb or similar SD card. Also these scam flash storage devices tend to use the lowest quality flash that's even more likely to die suddenly and without warning than a regular SD card from a reputable manufacturer (which also tend to die suddenly, without warning and sooner than you'd expect)
If you need bulk external storage for a backup I'd be looking at an external spinning hard drive or an external USB SSD from a reputable manufacturer and through reputable channels to avoid these scam flash devices that are all over the less reputable market channels (personally I only buy SD cards from physical retail stores because the scam flash devices are so prevelant on e-commerce sites)
@trainguyrom thanks for helping. But all good.
Mari the Deer 
@davidho so much inside such a fragile little thing...
@davidho I still recall coding with a singla 5 1/4" floppy drive PC, swapping the disks between my files and the compiler disk all the time....
hackersquirrel@hackersquirrel @davidho Yes, after a while I managed to get one of the rare 2 floppy pcs in the company! You had to fight for them....
maxwyt34
xs4me2
bent0_b0x 
🏴☠️🏳️🌈@davidho My first computer had 640K Ram, no harddisk. But I still had a wordprocessor, spreadsheet, games _and_ a modem available.
Not much progress has been made in those 45 years...
Not much progress has been made in those 45 years...
Simon newslttrs.com@davidho the ability to lose so much data down the back of the sofa!
Dr. Øhm@davidho I remember my first MP3 Player back in the early 2000s which had 128 MB of built-in flash memory. I hadn’t enough money for the 256 MB top-of-the-line model, but half the capacity was better than many others had. “What music do I want to listen today? I have to decide…”
Or my first own DSLR camera I bought with a SDXC card with incredible 32 (!) GB of storage…
I own 10 y/o 3.5” hard drives with less storage capacity than this tiny piece of plastic
@drohm @davidho
I bought a S/H Canon EOS70D with no card (takes full size SD). Biggest when new was a 32GB. However they had put the software for larger cards. A 256 G certainly works. The LCD though only goes up to 999 for number of photos storage left.
When I worked in BBC, the cameras used 3 tubes to only just get full PAL resolution; 576 visible lines & less than equivalent of 768 pixels.
The EOS70D is 20 Mpix stills & 1920x1080 video.
1948 (Transistor) UK HDTV was 376i. Now 2160p screens.
Fenix
Tizian 「ティツィアーン」
🇨🇦Weird Foodie🏴@davidho And to think that a forklift was needed to move a 5 MB hard drive quite a few years ago.
Garrett
Gabriel Markley@davidho wow I love throw back threads. Compare that to floppy disks. Lol
Hubert Figuière@davidho this gives a new meaning to “I lost my data”
@davidho I remember in school we had a fancy pants Novell network with 20mb network shares for each student. When they switched to Microsoft that expanded to 200mb. It wasn't until I was about to graduate high school that I finally started running out of space on that network share.
My first computer which ran Windows 98 for the longest time had a 40GB hard drive. Now retro computing enthusiasts often have little binders of SD cards with various OS builds on them since you can fit an entire early 2000s gaming PC's storage on a 64GB SD card and it'll be faster and more reliable than period hardware
Turre
Kotes
Frédéric Jacobs@davidho 💯
There are a few Kioxia (SanDisk’s Japanese manufacturing partner) presentations on their fabs and the manufacturing. It’s really amazing stuff
https://www.kioxia-holdings.com/content/dam/kioxia-hd/en-jp/ir/event/asset/Kioxia-Analyst-Day-202509-en.pdf
https://www.kioxia.com/en-jp/rd/movie.html
https://www.kioxia.com/en-jp/rd/technology/bics-flash.html
https://www.kioxia.com/en-jp/rd/technology/multi-level-cell.html
stephen ryner jr. 🦉
Henry Edward Hardy"His buyer for three megabytes of hot RAM in the Hitachi wasn't taking any calls."
William Gibson
Neuromancer
1984
Koen Hufkens, PhD@davidho It currently is unoptanium though.
Joel Wirāmu, Pauling@davidho
I have had one for a while... Mainly to use it for testing what doesn't like it
I have had one for a while... Mainly to use it for testing what doesn't like it