Karan J
Anil DashSo, the biggest IPO in the history of the world has the vast majority of its future value being created by an AI platform whose only distinction, thus far, is that it is the only one that's generated sexualized imagery of children? And they're going to force it into our 401ks so we're bag-holders for all the assholes who put stupid money into buying Twitter?
J. Nathan Matias 🦣@anildash good use of the extra characters on Mastodon Anil <grin>
Nelson Minar@anildash you missed the other asset of the AI: forced adoption in the US government thanks to corruption.
Kelsey Jordahl@anildash but they figured out how to generate revenue by building too many data centers for a biased "AI" nobody wants and selling excess capacity to their competitors, things are going great.
notthatkindofdoctor@anildash
Also haven't dealt with the whole unauthorized use of copyrighted materials issue. Or that bot generated products aren't copyrightable under current law. How do you profit if you have to compensate all the human contributors, whether they wanted to or not?
Also haven't dealt with the whole unauthorized use of copyrighted materials issue. Or that bot generated products aren't copyrightable under current law. How do you profit if you have to compensate all the human contributors, whether they wanted to or not?
EvoScale
Count Holdem
Pier Hegeman@CountHoldem @EvoScale @anildash Did you know that guillotines require no GPUs or fossil fuels to run, are very energy efficient and can be made with 100% renewable and/or recycled materials?
Dave Wilburn 
There's also the strong likelihood of liability under the False Claims Act. Their contract terms with the US Government almost certainly require them to comply with NISPOM, including requirements that their key management personnel acquire and maintain security clearances and comply with all of its obligations. Elon's conduct is not compatible with those requirements, to put it mildly. Maybe there's some scenario where all SpaceX personnel are doing all their reporting and self-reporting of derogatory information as required, and maybe the government is issuing formal waivers, but the more likely situation is that they are willfully noncompliant despite claims to the US Government to the contrary.
Investors are buying all of this risk: the litigation risk with noncompliance with US Government NISPOM, the likelihood of losing their current and future contracts with the US Government, global criminal and civil liability for their production and distribution of CSAM and nonconsensual intimate images, their shaky business model across all of their lines of business, and all of it being led by an unhinged executive shackled to an increasingly unpopular political movement.
Brett
Francesco Lodolo
Russell
Andrew Briscoe
eestileib (she/hers)@andrewbriscoe @zimzat @flod @bflipp @anildash
Yeah passive investors are about to get f------ed
vpz@bflipp @anildash Nasdaq changed it's rules in May to remove the long standing governors on when a company could be added to the index, and based on the new rules SpaceX can hit the index in 15 days. This will cause algorithmic buyers like index funds and ETFs to buy it automatically. Sure seems fishy that the Nasdaq changes it's rules just in front of the SpaceX/xAI, OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs. It's like there are powerful forces that want to push risk to the public so they can cash out before more people learn about the risks in these stocks.
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESit's rigged
#capitalists have been screaming " #COMMUNISM! #SOCIALISM! WHARGARBBBL..." as a fearmongered threat since forever. communism died in 1989
the truth is #capitalism *is* being killed
by #plutocracy
and because they don't care, don't notice, or are paid enough to not care, "capitalist" idiots have turned into plutocrat and #oligarch bootlickers without awareness or concern
it's a complete farce
and it's going to meet a reckoning
truth vs delusion is playing out
PetterOfCatsi'm sidestepping pro- / anti- capitalist arguments
i'm saying #capitalism is dead
there is the fantasy foundational belief of " #freeMarkets"
they have always been manipulated
(especially with #regulations removed, which #capitalists always seem excited to do, resulting in the biggest players controlling it)
#plutocracy replaced capitalism
idiots didn't notice
they merely adopted a lie:
"this is capitalism!"
behavior: not capitalism, just licking plutocrat boots
Charo del Genio@benroyce @PetterOfCats @anildash TBF, it has never been hidden that the ultimate goal of unchecked capitalism is oligarchy. Personally, I believe that a free market under strict collective control plus some additional measures could be the most sustainable system. As an example of the extra measures, I would remove all inheritance beyond a threshold (say, one house, and a certain amount of valuables and heirlooms); everything else goes to charity or to the state. Also, I would nationalise and guarantee all essential services, such as health care, water, electricity, schools, universities, gas for cooking and heating (before we phase it out). All else, private companies can provide it. And forbid by law lobbying and corporations financing parties and candidates. And I could go on.
Uhm, maybe I should run for office... I'm afraid I won't get a single vote, though... 😅
@paraw @PetterOfCats @anildash
What you wouldn't get is media exposure, part of the problem
Alpaca Male@anildash You know, when you phrase it like that, it sounds like a complete scam.
Martin Schröder 🇺🇳@anildash
This AI is so successful that they are renting their DCs to the competition.
This AI is so successful that they are renting their DCs to the competition.
Timo Grün
PG1958WILLNOTCOMPLY 🇺🇸🇷🇴🇺🇦🇵🇸@anildash it's a scam to make the rich richer...
Soldier of FORTRAN 
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O.Voão
V@anildash It's got other distinctions - It also declared itself mecha hitler that one time.
But, yes, they're working on forcing the CSA-content pedonazi chatbot into your 401k, despite all the obvious reasons putting the CSA-content pedonazi chatbot anywhere is a bad idea.
But, yes, they're working on forcing the CSA-content pedonazi chatbot into your 401k, despite all the obvious reasons putting the CSA-content pedonazi chatbot anywhere is a bad idea.
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Aidan 🇵🇸🇱🇧
ferricoxide@anildash
Guess I'm missing something. But…
My (seemingly flawed) understanding was that, with indicies like S&P noping-out (and others supposely considering similar), the "force into 401(k)s thing was basically being vetoed. And, even then, the "forcing" would only occur if your portfolio included index-funds that hadn't vetoed or funds that were still specifically planning to include the new offering(s)?
Guess I'm missing something. But…
My (seemingly flawed) understanding was that, with indicies like S&P noping-out (and others supposely considering similar), the "force into 401(k)s thing was basically being vetoed. And, even then, the "forcing" would only occur if your portfolio included index-funds that hadn't vetoed or funds that were still specifically planning to include the new offering(s)?
707Kat@anildash I'd say it's far from the only one that's generated CSAM.
But other than that, yes.
Robots can be gay deal with it@anildash last I heard, several of the hedgefunds that manage 401Ks said essentially "oh hell no" and at least for now there's a chance that it won't go through.
Kevin RussellIs there a science fiction comic novel where the evil brain wrecker computer gets destroyed?
silverwizard@anildash Ok, but, you gotta admit, your centrist takes on AI where you were like "there's good stuff here" probably helped that happen. You definitely did your best to build this.
An example thread to jog your memory:
bsky.app/profile/anildash.com/…
Anil Dash (@anildash.com)
this is the really ineffective head-in-the-sand reaction a lot of folks on Bluesky tend to have if you talk about any harm reduction-based approach to the reality that millions of people are using AI tools today. The current approach to critiquing AI is obviously not working, but they don't care.
Dinah 🕊🇺🇦@silverwizard It's good that you've got receipts, and those are broadly important in the world.
Also, Dash is currently making very good trouble against the power structures that are boosting AI so maybe use more energy on the common fight than dragging current allies? Just pointing out this is an example of that foible of the left where we hobble our own fight. Heaven knows I've done it too; I want to drop that habit counteractive to our goals.
@metagrrrl This man invented NFTs.
@silverwizard Isn't it useful to be able to say "Even the inventor of NFTs is against the AI companies"? And isn't he going to be able to reach and convert audiences which are hard for others opposing AI to reach?
Is your goal a pure priesthood of anti-AI people or is it kneecapping the OpenAI IPO?
You don't have to answer me, but you may want to answer that question for yourself.
@metagrrrl I think you should think about the centrism that caused this. And the centrism you are doing.
Feel free to sealion - but Anil Dash *must* admit *any failing* in order to get credit from me. And, ideally, anyone else.
@silverwizard Good reminder. Yes, I do a lot of thinking about how to juggle the risk of centrism vs the risk of ineffectiveness, & need to continue to do more.
Being too centrist in the past (like most who have voted Dem in US) is definitely a failing to which I'll admit
I appreciate the clarity of your position. "must admit any failing in order to get credit" is a starting point different than what I have chosen & continue to choose. Enlightening to have it plainly stated.
Have a good day.
@metagrrrl Fundamentally - I don't believe that people can be a beacon in a movement when they are the person who have made major mistakes. People can make mistakes - but they must attempt to reflect in order to grow. Seeing Anil Dash, who, as a reminder, invented the NFT, attempt to be held up as a mover against AI, while, never apologizing for his vocal and loud support for AI, nor apologizing for his invention of the NFT, means we are simply forgetting history instead of attempting to grow.
@silverwizard @metagrrrl no I didn’t. But I know why you want to pretend so. I’d say your penchant for dishonesty is probably the thing that opened the Overton window for this sort of thing. Or maybe you had more to do with the normalization of the CSAM parts, who knows.
@anildash @metagrrrl Man, take ownership of the things you do. Please consider how you've built the future, and the future you chose to help birth. Be critical of technologies and reflect on the actions and words you say.
Please, man, reflect.
I know it's easier to quibble over the definition of NFT and, call some idiot you don't know a pedophile, but please. Take your own life seriously.
@silverwizard @metagrrrl not gonna be scolded by somebody who comes in full of bullshit and condescension. Don’t pretend you have some positive intent when it’s very obvious your goal is showboating. You could have actually engaged like I’m a person, with an intent of trying to solve a problem, but you think I’m an object for your performance, and you have zero goal of helping anyone.
@anildash @metagrrrl good job man. I'm glad you're happy.
I'm happy to insult you, I think you're a bad person who hurts people and doesn't think about think about their actions. But I think it's important to own your actions. You reject that you invented the NFT (which I know you quibble about the definition of NFT and stuff in order to take responsibility) you've not engaged with your past behaviour endorsing LLMs, and you've tried to accuse me of sexually abusing children. Just in this thread. I'm going to insult you in your mentions so that, when people see your lame attempts to grapple with your actions, they think about your past.
You are held up as a symbol, and I mean, I know you mean well, but you try to take a centrist, calm and collected, middle of the road view these days. And I wish you were my ally in the fight because I know you want to be. But you aren't. So yeah, you are an object for performance, I am playing to an audience, like you. You want to be held up as a progressive genius. and I want to remind people that you actions keep hurting people.
@silverwizard @metagrrrl you seem to be objecting when someone makes an untrue assertion about you. Can you see why maybe you shouldn’t make assertions about others that aren’t true? You could engage me like I’m a person, and have a conversation. But instead, your own insecurity compelled you to engage with me through the lens of your resentment, so you treated me like an object. You wouldn’t talk to an actual person like this. Why the fuck should I indulge you?
@silverwizard @metagrrrl It's just true, and it's obvious in contrast to people who just act *normal*. Plenty of folks have said, "Hey, have you considered this" and shared critical feedback, and I've reflected and agreed with their criticism or changed the way I was moving or thinking about things. But people who lead with fanfic they've made up about me aren't acting in good faith, and are lashing out at an imagined enemy; it's never useful to indulge that, so I don't.
Michael Fenichel
@iveyline
Phil 🇦🇺