RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/116680653273523415

Good news. After massive public backlash from both retail & pension funds, S&P Dow Jones Indices announced that it will keep its existing eligibility requirements for benchmarks including the S&P 500, closing the door to fast entry for big tech IPOs like SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI and delaying billions of dollars in flows from passive funds. This is will save retail investors retirement savings going to scam companies. SpaceX, Other Mega IPOs Denied Fast Index Entry by S&P https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/spacex-other-mega-ipos-denied-223529619.html

Elon, Sama, Dario of these AI companies they think they are very smart because of deep connections in right places up in the chain to bend the rules.

But when retail & pension fund threaten to take out money the S&P 500 issued a press release Thursday.

So don't allow these scammer with loss making companies to get away with your retirement savings. Keep talking on social media and building pressure on your banks and pension funds. Nobody deserves to lose their hard earned money to such scams.

@nixCraft According to AT some rules were twisted tho:

«the S&P Dow Jones Indices did “carve out one concession” by changing the investable weight factor rules for “lower-profile benchmarks”...That could allow an IPO faster entry into those indexes...Nasdaq... allow SpaceX to enter the Nasdaq-100 Index within 15 trading days as opposed to the usual three months»

Other indexes also changes listing rules significantly.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/06/sp-500-blocks-fast-spacex-entry-wont-waive-rule-for-unprofitable-ai-firms/

S&P 500 rejects SpaceX, also blocking entry for OpenAI and Anthropic

SpaceX won’t get easy access to billions of dollars from passive investors.

Ars Technica
FYI, SpaceX set IPO price to $135 per share. Most analyst believe this is not just overvalued but they think it will hit $30-$40 range within months giving exit to VCs and other investors while you left holding this stock. Same thing is going to happen with other two AI companies upcoming IPOs.

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Wonder if there'll be another tantrum about shorting his companies this time around.

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Maybe SpaceX worth $10 or less. See XAI, X Social Media and "Starship" design. Tesla cars still massively overvalued vs actual & projected sales.

And the "LLM AI only" companies worth zero.

@nixCraft Good news ! Do we have infos on msci indexes like msci world ?
@Atom0 so far no. NASDAQ and other seems to going with this plan as it is. i wonder why they are not listing and eager to get these AI companies in index so fast. something is not right with NASDAQ and other indexs.

@nixCraft From what I’ve read msci world index integration is different from other based on volume exchanged and other things. Found this infographic from https://www.nepc.com/how-will-fast-track-index-inclusion-of-mega-ipos-impact-your-portfolio/

Looks like it will be quickly integrated in the msci world index, luckily it’s not as much exposed like an s&p500 or Nasdaq-100 considering there’s 1500+ companies inside. Still wrong to passively invest in it

@Atom0 i think it is best to ask your bank or insurance plan provider or pension fund where you hold investments. i simply don't know enough about it.
@Atom0 @nixCraft This is not entirely true. The index is market cap weighted, and the current stock market is very US-centric, and the US is very large-cap oriented right now. So these big IPOs will weigh less, but not that much less.
@nixCraft This is awesome news!! They were planning to scam the whole US financial system basically. Changing the rules…

The run on space stock seems to be taking a major break already.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/JEDI.DE/

(Unless someone believes people are selling serious stock for liquidity to buy into ScamX)

@nixCraft It's shocking to see good news like this these days.
@gooba42 indeed.

@nixCraft @gooba42 yeah... After seeing this I keep waiting for the "BUT...." follow up news.

You know, the other shoe dropping..

@kaasbaas @nixCraft @gooba42 the BUT is that S&P Global are the only ones deciding not to play along. The other big indices are still going through with it
@kaasbaas @nixCraft @gooba42 Exactly 💯 The fact that the rules were changed in the first place to permit the theft of retirement monies destroyed their paper thin credibility to manage the stock market "fairly".
@kaasbaas @nixCraft @gooba42 Same. I keep expecting it to happen anyway, and we'll find out ten years down the line that Somebody forced it to happen.

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Thank goodness. I was prepared to take the tax-hit and withdraw my 401(K).

@angiebaby that why i shared it as soon as read it. i knew people are fed up with all this nonsense.

@angiebaby @nixCraft Is your 401k indexed to the S&P, or Nasdaq / Russell? Cause ...

> diverging from a broader industry shift embraced by rivals Nasdaq Inc. and FTSE Russell

They're still going face first into that jump. So far.

@nixCraft Honestly, I don't understand how this works at all. Would someone please kindly explain it to me like I'm about 10? 😵‍💫

@thejessiekirk @nixCraft lots of big money managers, like pension funds, put their money in something called "index funds", usually run by banks or investment companies. Index funds buy the best performing stocks on the stock market automatically, cause that's historically been a safe way to invest long term.

The way they find out what stocks perform best is through stock market indices. Those are lists run by companies like S&P.

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There are rules on what companies can get on such a list, especially right after going public, so that people can ensure the company is stable. Some of those rules have changed lately, and SpaceX is hoping to get on those lists while they are still valued super high.

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If they do, the index funds will buy them at a very high price, flooding them with old people's money. Musk & Co can then sell their stocks and make obscene amounts of money. If the company turns out later to be unstable, the retirement fund will lose a ton of money, and index funds will no longer be a safe way to invest long term.

@thejessiekirk @nixCraft I probably got a ton of that wrong, I'm not at all an expert. Buy that's what I understand the scam is

@thejessiekirk @nixCraft
Very basic, incomplete, probably contains misunderstandings:

The stock market is slot machines. Put money in, if you're lucky, more money comes out. A company becomes part of the stock market by doing an IPO, or "initial public offering". At that point, the company sets the price of their shares, but after that, the slot machine decides. Before the IPO, the company is owned by the founders and any investors (including VC or venture capital).

The IPO is when the founders and investors get rich, so ideally they will want the share price to be as high as possible. But the higher they set it, the more likely it is to go down, and thus fewer people will buy the shares, making it go down more.

In this case, they think the hype is so high that they can get away with selling the shares at $135, even though the price is expected to drop to $40. Any sucker who gambles on these shares is almost guaranteed to lose big time.

Then there is some shares that are stable. They barely go up or down. People don't buy them to gamble, because there is nothing to win. However, they are stable because the company they represent generates a steady income. So retirement fund managers invest in those. They are not there to gamble, they are interested in a stable income.

Unfortunately, rich people are often good friends, and certain billionaires have been able to convince the people who manages the list of stable, safe investments to add their companies to these lists before they've even reached their post-IPO level. Meaning that the retirement funds would buy into them by default at $135 before they reach the expected $40, meaning peoples 401k would lose ⅔ of whatever money gets invested in this scam.

Thankfully, people have been able to get the attention of some of the big retirement funds, and they have told the people managing the lists of stable companies that if they try to pull this scam, the retirement funds will no longer use the lists, making the lists worthless.

@thejessiekirk @nixCraft this article explains it a bit--most of the other index funds that 401ks use are still going forward with the rule change :/ https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/article/spacex-ipo-is-coming-to-your-401k-should-you-be-concerned-154603442.html
SpaceX IPO is coming to your 401(k). Should you be concerned?

If you're investing in a 401(k) for retirement via broad index funds, a sliver of the rocket and satellite company is likely to wind up in your account...

Yahoo Finance

@nixCraft thank you for sharing!

That is actual good news coming out of finance (⇒ "we undid the bad news").

@nixCraft I don't really understand any of these financial dealings, but - S&P excepted - does this whole IPO thing mean that basically the entire global financial and investments system will be enmeshed in these "AI" companies - meaning that when those companies tank, they'll drag the global economy down with them?

Asking for a mattress with room for cash under it.

@clickhere they will have a disproportionate effect on your retirement account. Remains to be seen if they drag the whole economy with them, but they're spending so much money across so many companies it's making up a significant portion of total earnings growth across the market.

Problem is that investment advisors can't just leave money on the table, they have to play the game until the crash.

@jcriecke jfc - once again, those of us staying far away from all that mess will be burned along with the rest. Christ.

The mattress option really does seem increasingly appealing..

@clickhere @jcriecke Cash, envelopes, unique storage places.
@c_merriweather @clickhere problem is that in addition to perhaps tanking the economy we're also working on sending inflation through the roof, so cash in envelopes loses value too fast to make for stable savings in the long term. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

@jcriecke @clickhere Yeah, but checking accounts don't earn interest, either. And cash is always handy.

(Some do not have enough money to bother with savings accounts.)

@jcriecke @clickhere They will turn every fund into junk.
@nixCraft One reason why Musk decided to go to NASDAQ with SpaceX, they gave him a lot of entry doors and changed their policies.
@Okuna yeah, NASDAQ is still a problem, right? And other index funds may include it as part of their portfolio?
@mlncn they may have to
@nixCraft Look at the Hedgeye data: index rules weren't maintained, they were crushed. S&P waived the GAAP profit rule and Russell cut waiting to 5 days. Over $30T in 401k/pension funds are now FORCED to buy SpaceX at IPO pricing. A pure heist of real savings. #Finance #Technology
@nixCraft My coworkers had not heard about the rules change nor do they understand the scam that these industries are running. That's understandable because the marketing of these fascists as business geniuses is relentless.
@nixCraft I'm retired and have a few more options/choices for investments. But wasn't looking forward to try and find any funds that avoid these stocks/scams.
Nasdaq is still going to be instrumental in this giga-scam, are they not?
@nixCraft power to the people (small p's)

@nixCraft So you're saying that you have a habit of passing along unconfirmed lies from anonymous accounts on a political propaganda platform?

Good to know…

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The Vanguard Total Stock Market fund, VTSAX, tracks the Dow Jones Total Stock Market Index, which, at the moment, will end up with SpaceX in the index.

VTSAX is a core part of the "Three-fund portfolio", which is a very popular passive investing method.

https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Three-fund_portfolio

Three-fund portfolio - Bogleheads

@nixCraft never before has a finance rule change announcement made me this happy