@JuliusGoat When the first US astronauts came back from space there was only one question that the assembled journalists wanted the answer to.
"Sirs, sirs! What I, and my readers want to know is, while you were up there in space did you see God?"
The oldest astronaut smiled and said "Why, of course we did".
Another voice shouted out above the ensuing commotion. "Can you tell us what God looks like?".
The oldest astronaut paused, smiled and then answered "Well, first of all, she's black".
God is a woman if she exists
For details, read:
*When God Was a Woman*, by Merlin Stone
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30858.When_God_Was_a_Woman
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I call G-d "It/That" and have had many unproductive conversations about how ascribing gender to the Divine is a form of idolatry. At least they stop doing a transphobia so they can argue with me about theology long enough for my trans friends to make an exit.
People will absolutely, immediately, correct you if you misgender their dog, but think trans people are being sensitive.
I'd be tempted to just reply "well I don't believe in adverbs, so there", just to send them searching to find out what an adverb is.
@JuliusGoat No pronouns in the language would be ideal.
Who's gonna convince indoeuropeans... In estonian, everyone is "tema", short form "ta". It could be so in english as well, just "they". It's painful to figure out pronouns.
Like when no pronouns are provided, meeting in person or in text for the first time.
So much social make-work.
I remember all the crocodile tears over that movie. god portrayed by Alanis Morrisette was top of the list of grievances. Christian nationalists are so tedious
The god of Abraham is referred to as "she" numerous times in scripture. The word "Eloah" is the Feminine Divine of "El," and "El Shaddai" means god of breasts. Abraham never knew a violent warrior-king god named yhvh. Abraham worshipped El Shaddai, and Shekinah, also Feminine, which is translated as the presence or face of god. A woman face.
The yhvh character was made up by the priestly caste in babylon, and their text redacted to pretend yhvh was always Israel's god.
Not exactly. The word "elohim" translated as "god" is actually plural. It literally means "gods." So every time you see yhvh elohim the literal translation is "yhvh of gods." If you hadn't noticed, the ending "-ah" in yhvh is itself the Feminine form. The switch was never completely successful. King David wrote songs to Shaddai, and referring to god as Eloah, in psalms they didn't dare change (hard to mess with stuff that's been popular songs for centuries).
There is a point where god discussed a conversation with the Heavenly Court and used "we" words which could be interpreted as meaning "we" in the royal sense - that could also mean more than one known Face of god, ie male and female.
@JuliusGoat
A few of us actually dont give a fuck about gender or pronouns or what have you to separate and bin us.
Went to a #SCA event where the autocrat (event steward) demanded everyone's pronouns. I dont care. I said as such, and the autocrat ('she/hers') went on a long freakout tirade. Finally dropped it. She's also a known latte liberal, where the placeholder for a thing is more important than the actions of a thing.
Im also a #lokean. Lot of people dont get that arbitrarily binning people separates and segregates them. I dont much like that.
@crankylinuxuser @JuliusGoat Accepting and using other people's pronouns is good.
*Demanding* them is often tantamount to insisting that (at least some) people out themselves, when they may not be ready to do so yet. Very uncool.
Exactly. I dont care one bit about if someone has preferred pronouns. Ill use 'em!
But forcing or throwing a fit cause I said "I do not care" causes them to blow up? Yeah fuck that and fuck them. Ill enjoy making them blow up and watch the aftermath.
@Tabby_Schaf @JuliusGoat
The ‘shouty sky man’ god is a domestic abuser for sure.
Tell them to read Emily Wilson’s true translation of Homers Odyssey. That it proves god is a women and all men are rapists.
if they won’t even read it, just insist they are wrong and can only sway you by disproving the book.
That should piss them off!
@JuliusGoat
> If somebody tells you they don't believe in pronouns ...
Just walk away.