BillWoo. Don't call AI agents "cron jobs" in a meeting of AI bros. They will throw you out the window like on that one web comic meme.
cR0w
@cR0w Now that I think about it, with you being a crow, it wouldn't be that big of a deal!
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Edvin Malinovskis
Marty Fouts@MartyFouts @nCrazed Relevant Mythbusters. Like Relevant xkcd only different.
I am Jack's Found 404
David August ❌👑
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Hilko Bengen
@Sempf @cR0w I have updates and they are NOT what I was anticipating my guys.
One guy laughed at me and said he was going to go ask his agent what it thought about that. 
Another one said, "You clearly do not understand AI" which I feel is window-throwing adjacent.
And then they started talking about nuances in AI and I left.
@jackryder @cR0w "You clearly do not understand AI" is as close here as you're going to get without law enforcement becoming involved, so I accept it.
Ed@Sempf In a meeting a couple of weeks ago my boss announced we were all going to become versed in "AI Ops." None of us specifically knew WTF that meant, so he described it to us.
When I asked, "So it's basically just automation?" he had to blink a few times and recover before admitting that yeah, that's about it.
derptron
Dave Wilburn 
@Sempf at least cron jobs are deterministic.
Mx. Eddie R@DaveMWilburn @Sempf
Not if you put an AI agent inside your cron job, which was discussed at this morning's meeting.
We can't do it for tax filing because that needs to be deterministic or people can go to jail, but insurance underwriting? We can do that with AI. With human judgment it's already nondeterministic, donchaknow.
Merospit@silvermoon82 @DaveMWilburn @Sempf Needing a report to be deterministic doesn't stop the true AI believers. Personal experience hand writing a real report after lawyers complain about team members slop taught me that.
The 500 Hats of LambdaCalculus@Sempf Welp, guess I'm gonna be walking into an AI meeting to loudly yell "CRON JOBS!!"
Draken (at Anime Central 2026)@Sempf
PISS (Plagiarized Information Synthesis System)
PISS (Plagiarized Information Synthesis System)
Kallisti
Ian Campbell 🏴@Sempf Overwhelmingly, I continue to find all use cases in line with one of @cR0w 's big points - none of this so far is innovation, just recreating deterministic automations.
There are exceptions...but the thing these companies are trying to solve for on both sides isn't security, but paying people for their knowledge, experience, and outputs.
@neurovagrant @Sempf @cR0w I heard the term "Three if's in a trench coat" and absolutely refuse to be moved.
Eric Daryl Meyer
Pseudo Nym@ericdaryl @jackryder @neurovagrant @Sempf @cR0w
I liked "answer shaped text" but the signal one is more technically accurate.
Also "mansplaining as a service"
Russ Sharek@ericdaryl @jackryder @neurovagrant @Sempf @cR0w
stealing that one. :)
@RussSharek I stole it from some person more clever than me!
Someone more clever than me told me that was called learning! :)
Epic Null@Sempf "Setting up a Cron Job is difficult as is reading them" - clearly defined problem that can be solved.
"Cron Jobs can't be set to the scheduling patern I actually want" - clearly defined problem that can be solved, albeit with a lot more effort.
"We should use AI to schedule things!" - ?????????????
Owl Eyes@Sempf I totally installed systemd-cron the other day, as systemd timers were driving me nuts. Cronjobs do it right, I say.
The Doctor@d1 I have never used a systemd timer. I don't have any bad stories or anything it just seems like all the Linux people I respect hate systemd so I've never looked.
@Sempf systemd never "shot my dog". The systemd timers is the first time I've really found something that impacted my life, to dislike. But then the systemd-cron #debian package was right there, so it's not as though an "out" to this problem wasn't provided for me.
To all the #systemd haters - look, #MXlinux has a nice balance where systemd is not the default, but then gives an easy path to using systemd, should it prove to be necessary (and in my case, yes it is). Hating systemd is no hill to die on, I say.
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dasgrueneblatt
radioward@radioward @Sempf Many don't. Or even know what a shell is.
@radioward Oooooh ouch.
Pēteris Krišjānis@Sempf waking up and choosing right kind of violence I see 😅
luca@Sempf I would have substituted cron with 'hand', but I'm a gross and disrespectful person, paying no attemption to the nice work done.
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Jonathan Reiter (张飞)
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