Mastodawn

Just got my chronic open-source fever again. When that happens, I go on hours trying to figure out how to replace "evil" services with open-source ones. Last time I deleted Instagram, Threads, X, and Linkedin, and moved here intead. This time trying to figure out whether it's time to ditch Google and move to Proton. I am not sure it's quite there yet for me but getting close. Any thoughts?

#opensource #proton #privacy #security #linux #mastodon #socialmedia

CB like the radio Apr 23

@tsuri_by I don't miss a thing not using gmail. From Tuta or Proton both get the job done for me.

@cbdesu That's great to know, I will be there soon as well 🙂

CB like the radio Apr 23

@tsuri_by I think the nice thing about it was that the change is gradual. Since it is a new email address I have also been very selective to who actually has the address. So the mail that I get on one account is of the personal type and I look forward to seeing that something came in. No newsletters, no ads, no change of terms and conditions email.s

@cbdesu That's a good advice thanks I will do the gradual thing too. I have a proton email but I want to upgrade and pay for the entire package. I want to replace google contacts to sync with my phone, and google keep which I heard they acquired Standard Notes.

neutronstar Apr 23

@tsuri_by @cbdesu
I agree that switching gradually is a good course of action here. You can’t climb a mountain in a day.

I would like to recommend using the hide my email addresses if you’ll use your proton to sign up for any services. It’s a good way to keep your mailbox clean in case of some data breach.

I have tried using Standard Notes a bit for offline use and I can recommend it. I think it can probably replace keep since it’s just a notes app.

When it comes to replacing Contacts however, I find Proton’s interface to be poorly integrated. It doesn’t have a dedicated app and using it on the mail app opens the web page. It certainly works for storing contacts but don’t expect it to be too well integrated with your phone applications.

@neutronstar @cbdesu Yeah contacts isn't there quite yet. Also, I would probably have to wait for the Proton drive linux client, as otherwise I would have to keep paying both for Google and Proton cloud. Thank you for your response on this.

neutronstar Apr 23

@tsuri_by @cbdesu
You’re welcome, happy to help! :)

diesUndDasMitTassen 🇺🇦Apr 23

@tsuri_by I'm blocking google and all services 100% during daily use by DNS filter. I switched online office to collabora online + nextcloud. Sometimes I need google playstore for iot android apps, but only on a "strongly limited" mobile. Thougt I would need search console for different website projects. But I deleted all properties and nothing happened for about one year. Traffic is still the same. Thus I have also stopped, optimizing for google search. No affect also.

#gafam #bigtech #google

@Andreas_Sturm That's amazing, kind of my dream to leave Google and all those other bad energy products. I have been working on linux for 16 years now, slowly switching to everything open source, even my art, and every time that I do, I feel like another small burden has been lifted off me.

diesUndDasMitTassen 🇺🇦Apr 23

@tsuri_by Never thought I could do without Illustrator and Photoshop, which is why I stuck with Windows for a long time at home. At my job I am using Linux a long time. After my outrageously expensive Wacom tablet with built-in screen stopped working on Windows, no longer any drivers available, I switched to Linux – where it works perfectly – and turned my back on Adobe.

My only regret: Why did I wait so long to do it? 😆

Because I’m old, I’ve lived another life without Google before 😉

@Andreas_Sturm Inspiring stuff my friend, I use Blender, Krita and Inkscape :)

@tsuri_by What Google components are you wanting to replace?

@rspfau Drive, Gmail, Photos, Calendar, Tasks, Keep, Contacts

@tsuri_by I've enjoyed using the drive, email, and photos equivalent in Proton over the past year or so.

@rspfau Yep sounds good!, I am working on linux so I will probably have to wait till they come up with the Proton Drive client for linux though..

@tsuri_by @rspfau i use #nextcloud for drive, photos, calendar, ... there is also a software for linux. Mail is self hosted.

https://nextcloud.com/

Nextcloud - Open source content collaboration platform

The most popular open source content collaboration platform for tens of millions of users at thousands of organizations across the globe

Nextcloud

@mosiwo @rspfau Yep considering going there, thanks.

@tsuri_by @rspfau Yes, with some technical know-how, you can host #Nextcloud yourself. However, there are numerous European companies that offer it as a ready-made package. I chose #Hetzner for myself. I get 1TB of cloud storage there for around 5 euros / Data on german server. I think that's great. https://www.hetzner.com/de/storage/storage-share/

There are other providers as well; this isn't meant to be an advertisement. You'll have to compare and find the best one for you. 👍

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@mosiwo @rspfau Sounds like a great option actually, thanks!

@tsuri_by @rspfau you are welcome. So you could use for example proton free just for email and Nextcloud for storage and everything else.

You can extend Nextcloud with many free apps from the internal Nextcloud app store. There's also a Nextcloud mail client where you can set up your Proton or other email account as IMAP, so you don't even have to switch back and forth between the cloud and mail.

I haven't had a separate email program installed on my computer for years and only use webmail.

@mosiwo @rspfau I did use to run my own nextcloud server a while back, so it will be interesting to give it another try. Using a European server sounds a bit more practical though, especially as there is a difference between setting up your own server and making sure your own server that you set up is reliable, at least as far as syncing goes.

@tsuri_by @rspfau That's correct. They're also certain that the data won't be lost. As I understand it, Hetzner, for example, has at least five continuous backups of each file. These backups are created daily.