As precursor to my blog post announcement later today, here's my #SocialHub response to the topic on how to treat the #LinkedData based #ActivityPub open standard where messages can be expressed both as plain #JSON as well as in #JSONLD, leading to the most costly misconception that has dragged the #fediverse sideways from its original promise and power..

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/practices-around-json-formatting-of-json-ld-messages/8628/24

Practices around JSON formatting of JSON-LD messages

Fediverse-we-have is at a major inflection point And so I did, and seeing all the discussion here for which I thank you all, I decided to put in way more effort than originally intended, and delving into much deeper subject matter. The article quotes @SorteKanin and mentions others in this thread, especially @silverpill as the pillar who upholds the FEP process today. I read the discussion with interest, but skipping the implementation details, to take a broader perspective. All of you are rig...

SocialHub

#ThoughtProvoker 🤔

#fediverse is at an inflection point.

Either revival and course correction to the original #ActivityPub protocol power and promise. With the potential to #ReimagineSocial.

Or keep current track with fedi-we-have. Be content with a few great and reasonably popular app platforms. Surely some more to come. But with a messy wire protocol that stifles #innovation and isn't future-proof.

#AskFedi do you dare to dream?

This special thought provoker is based on personal reflection and 8 years of #commoning. Deliberately exposed to the inherent unsustainability of the #FOSS movement. Burning privilege by spending my savings.

Goal: 1st-hand experience to learn the #social dynamics that make a #commons tick.

I invite you to a #brainstorm & #ideation ride. To ponder how #fedi can organically evolve. Become unbeatable by #hypercapitalism.

https://coding.social/blog/grassroots-evolution

But in an age of #AI who still reads long handcrafted #blogs? Fill in the #poll.

#SX #SocialCoding #SocialWeb

In the end I more or less read the whole article
I read the article summary, skimmed for highlights
I passed the problem section, read the tech ideas
Meh, skip. Too technical. Too social fluffy. Other
Poll ends at .
Grassroots fediverse evolution

Social dynamics in the grassroots fediverse ecosystem and laisséz-faire practices led to divergence from power and promise of the ActivityPub protocol. Grassroots standards and the ActivityPub API initiative can get us back on track.

Social coding commons

@smallcircles I want to read it, and it's on a topic of importance to me, but I recognize that I don't have the focus or time.

Also, I'm quickly running into information for which I lack referents, making it difficult to digest what the article is saying.

I think what I'd need (for whatever that may be worth) in order to be able to digest this properly is some backgrounders on the major pieces mentioned:

  • what is "solid project"?
  • how does the "two people / pillars" situation correlate to the current state of Mastodon, specifically the Mastodon Foundation?
  • exactly how has fedi strayed from [standards, early promise...]?

I'd probably have more to ask/say but I keep getting interrupted, which perhaps gives you some idea of why I'm not able to read the article properly right now... 

@woozle the article was described as "fairly long thinkpiece" by @Profpatsch which with 53 min. read time is an understatement of "fairly long" where it comes to typical online content.

Thank you for taking the time and ponder things! I think that is the most important. We are all so pragmatic and want to have quick results. And our society is asking to be hurried. Everything is urgent. All is in peril. But giving in to that urge is a trap, that makes us weaker as mankind to face our wickedest problems.

Besides "Hammock driven development" mentioned in the article, #Emergence is key. And emergence is WEIRD and fascinating. I just tooted about it in..

https://social.coop/@smallcircles/116384803540561801

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I used #SolidProject just to contrast a totally opposite approach to how fedi evolves: Fully formal #OpenStandards driven, but with risk to evolve into a 'standards maze' without ecosystem support.

#Mastodon Foundation is a new development. Hopefully they care beyond the app.

#SX #SocialCoding #SocialWeb

@smallcircles

I have been working on a "move slowly and build things" basis for some time now -- arguably to excess [insert rant here]  

Unfortunately, as you noted, Life keeps going at its own breakneck pace regardless of whether I'm interested in breaking any necks 😅

I do appreciate a good deep-dive, though, and hopefully I'll have time to absorb more of it  

@Profpatsch
cc: @eryn

@woozle @smallcircles @Profpatsch @eryn "I have been working on a "move slowly and build things" basis for some time now..."

This is absolutely fine. Anybody who thinks a new order of independents is going to emerge in five years is delusional: first, we can all only do so much in a given time, and second we have to wait for each other to come up with successive evolutionary steps.

@khleedril @woozle @Profpatsch @eryn

💯 Totally! This is even part of core principles of #SX: Mindfulness.

A movement is timeless and can only progress by participants adding their 2 cts, which accrue over time. Or it pauses, waiting for input. The wicked solution is timeless in a similar way, waiting its lifecycle stage where it solves the wicked problem and sustainably satisfies all stakeholders' evolving needs.

Urgency is provided by individuals. However, if some group or movement has the attitude "Stop the talking, we MUST act NOW and with URGENCY" they have a humongous failure condition right there.

Instead there is prioritised, planned urgency and after breakdown into manageable chunks. It becomes simple then. You talk when you need to talk, and you act when you need to act.

It sounds like a platitude, and perhaps it is in how obvious it is. But if you don't act according to the wisdom of the platitude, perhaps it bears repeating it? Platitudes are a form of universal truths.

@smallcircles @khleedril

I just wish being patient didn't require so much patience ;-)

@Profpatsch @eryn

@woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

Aha, good one, I love it! Since I'm still in nerdsniped state on this whole emergence thing, let me try to come up with yet another platitude then... umm 🤔 ......

Aww, got it. Maybe its garbage, platitudal overload, but at least it sounds deep. 🤣

@saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

You are right. It is flawed. Happens on the quick-toot modern timeline of our time :)

But this is also emergent design: experiment, test, improve in short cycles.

Another attempt at platitude then. Then it is up to others to counter-platitude me again :D

@smallcircles

I see a pin-back button in the works.
May I?

@saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

@Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

You mean a quote post? Sure, by all means :)

@smallcircles

I have a button-making setup. I'd love to make a physical button.

@saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

@Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

Oh, that is lovely. You can use it public domain CC0 as a quote by me, Arnold Schrijver, assuming that no one before me has formulated it already.

@Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

I'm pondering now if I should make "SX platitude" a SX artifact. I likely will.

You see, there's a concept of "wisdom tiles" in SX, indicating universal truths that all (or most) people agree on, like "think, before you act". The tile I generated represents a Delft-blue "wisdom tile" and these things used to hang in the toilet in our grandparents house when we were young. You typically gifted them on birthdays of your Grandma. They are now kinda disappearing. It is old-fashioned.

The underlying innercircles simple life philosophy that underpins SX goes from the assumption that "simple solutions still exist". And that in terms of wisdom, knowledge, common sense, and life experience *everything* we need to solve the wicked solutions of our time, is already out there. It is the coordinated application in practice during prolonged times where we drop the ball.

Wisdom is relative, in the eye of the beholder. "Wisdom tile" best avoided.

@Algot @saxnot @woozle @khleedril @Profpatsch @eryn

With CC0 there's no need for attribution, but if you want to honor me you may quote as:

-- "Urgent platitudes" quote by Arnold Schrijver, social coder.