People, the draft is NOT back (yet). Males have had to register for the SSS for a long time now and the change is that instead of them doing it themselves, the government is automatically registering them. That's all (again, for now).
Now, I think that is itself a bad thing, but saying that the draft is back is not at all accurate.
We have enough scary shit out there, don't make it worse.
Quite a few states have automatic voter registration (AVR). My state, Oregon, has AVR.
It's often called "motor voter" because it started at the DMV (dept of motor vehicles) Some states are looking beyond the DMV to get more people automatically registered to vote.
https://www.findlaw.com/voting/my-voting-guide/what-is-automatic-voter-registration.html
And then there's North Dakota which doesn't even require registration!
Sorry if this is too rambling, voting issues are interesting to me.
@ahimsa_pdx @LeslieBurns Motor Voter was signed into federal law by Bill Clinton. All states are required to ask people if they'd like to register to vote when they get their driver's license/state ID.
Automatic voter registration would be simpler--you turn 18 and you're registered to vote. No need to do anything else. (It should also mean no voter purges due to inactivity and other shenanigans, but obviously none of that will change without a new Voting Rights Act)
@LeslieBurns On the other hand many of us are, without knowing it, part of the "militia of the United States"....
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
My point was entirely focused on the fact that "men" were specifically mentioned
What with Pete #KineticStrike #Hegseth being who he is and all, that specific declaration carries a lot of weight with me
IOW: no women need apply, and no women will even be "selected"
There will be no girls in Hegseth's #MansArmy
And there's the issue of exactly what dataset / database is the source here
The IRS was it? A specific subset culled by #Musk's little #DOGE #Shitlords?
@LeslieBurns I wonder who's inflaming this situation? I filled out the card.
I also did drag from time to time for a little while when that was a disqualifying factor, just in case.
@MisuseCase @LeslieBurns No doubt they will make errors. Which raises a question. Failure to register currently has significant consequences: possible criminal prosecution, and, unless you can show the failure wasn't willful, lifetime debarment from certain federal benefits, including employment.
With automatic registration, will those who aren't auto-registered (through no fault of their own) be entitled to a presumption that their failure wasn't willful? Or is the burden on you to check?
@mattblaze @MisuseCase @LeslieBurns
I doubt it, even if we get a sorta honest administration again someday.
And I suspect you are still liable if they make a mistake, either in registering you, or in updating your address. In the past, failing to update your address was just as great a crime as not registering.
Not being sufficiently diligent in making sure they got your new address and updated their records correctly was *also* the same crime.
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Agree, 60s student draft deferment program was rigged for white middle class males. My best friend and I went down to the local draft board office for a chat in 1966. We wanted all the information from them about the process beyond a deferment(we thought they were blatantly unfair). All old white guys there. At the office we both decided to 'volunteer' to be drafted immediately, agreeing if assigned to Vietnam we would not go. We both made it.....
@oclsc @SteveBellovin @mattblaze @LeslieBurns
As a teenager in Montreal in the 60s and into the 70s, I was lucky enough to meet some very fine Americans, not much older than me. I met a girl when traveling in the States, whose brother was shot down (and survived). She said it was family that kept him from moving up here. So many lives changed.
One of the finer gentlemen who came was a beautiful soul, Jesse Winchester. He made an impression while he was here.
@SteveBellovin @LeslieBurns @mattblaze I had a low draft number - and mine came up. I had a minor transient, but grounds for exemption, medical condition - so I went to the UCLA medical library and learned how to make it worse, much much worse. I had the full Alice's Restaurant draft physical experience - my ears still are ringing from when the goons screamed into my face that I was lying when I could not read the lines on the eye chart. But my medical "learning" paid off when I got inspected by a doctor who did not want to be there and knew that I did not want to be there.
On the way out some guy in a uniform gave me condolences saying "now you'll never be able to join the military".
I think I went to Pinks Hot Dogs in Hollywood to celebrate.
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