The following is mostly a reply I gave in someone else's thread. I wanted to share it without risking the other threadfolk getting backlash.

Concerning whether or not US-Americans know and/or care that yesterday could easily have been the start of WWIII/a global nuclear event:

A lot of us care and are aware. Enough that we were checking the news every few mins yesterday & dreading the approach of 8pm EST.

Please don't paint all US-Americans with the same brush of dismissive judgment....

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....An uncounted but large number of us have been fighting this as hard as we know how for more than 10 years. We are scared, exhausted, and despairing, and there aren't enough words for us to say how deeply sorry we are that our government is menacing the whole world.

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#AmericanPerspective
#WarIsHell
#25thAmmendmentNOW

@courtcan

with the caveat that if, as an american, you do not vote, because you value punishing the democrats for being spineless (and they are), over preventing {gestures broadly}, you are a piece of shit

you want better than the milquetoast bullshit the democrats offer

i do too

but we are only going to get there by showing up, especially in the primaries, and iterating to better over time

"i want perfect now or i'm not participating!" is not a moral position

it's being an immature child

@benroyce @courtcan Republicans could remove Trump but are afraid to. They are the spineless ones.

@Oldfartrant @courtcan

Indeed. Centrist Republicans are spineless. Centrist Democrats are spineless. Meanwhile MAGA is turbocharged and the American left is despondent and dissipated. Some of this is due to plutocracy: they pump money into MAGA and they control traditional media and social media. One response to this is cynical defeatism. But I say the left should take over the Democrats. Job #1 for that is shut down these pathetic voices on the left that are useless whiny entitled cynics

@benroyce @Oldfartrant @courtcan only my party the #Greens are winning. The price of oil will be excessive until *at least* 2028. And that means, more solar and wind adoption. Less shipping and more local economic development! Weird, we didn't even get elected and the #uniparty $#!+ all over itself and gave us a victory ✌️. Have I said how much I love our #EV which is $10 to fully charge when using our house?

@stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan

no

i want 3rd parties but to get 3rd parties we need ranked choice voting

rcv is creeping in, but until then we have to focus on taking over the democrats

in an FPTP voting system, we only have a choice between 2 parties

it's not corruption, it's just math

the left splintering into different parties is as fatal for us as leftists not voting

"you want us to support spineless democrats!"

no, i want us to show up in the fucking primaries and replace them

@benroyce @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan
I think the easiest way to explain it is, remember Ross Perot? That’s how the right wing lost to Bill Clinton, the independent difference was split. Then remember The Tea Party and MAGA? That’s how the right wing took over the GOP, they replaced all the individual candidates with their own in the primaries, and stuck with a 50 state, up and down the ticket strategy. Even school boards. Behind the scenes, billionaires funded and organized the whole thing.
@suzannealdrich
Perot is the perfect example of why 3rd parties are a.non-starter anywhere outside of county-level races without some form.of RCV. He won basically 19% of the national popular vote and not a single EC vote out of it all. Over 99% of state and federal legislative and executive seats are won by either the Democratic or Republican nominee and not one 3rd party was on the ballot in all 50 states in 2024.
@benroyce @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan

@baronvonj @suzannealdrich @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan

thus, all 3rd party voices in the USA are working for Putin or MAGA. or are embarrassingly uneducated about how our stupid FPTP system works. deeply cringe because it's not hard to understand

i want 3rd parties

to get 3rd parties we need ranked choice voting

until we get rcv, which makes 3rd parties viable, anyone voting 3rd party now in the USA on the left is helping MAGA win by dividing the left vote

that's the cold hard truth

@benroyce @baronvonj @suzannealdrich @Oldfartrant @courtcan you can tell yourself that, it is a long time #democrat whine and we all hear you

@stalbaum @baronvonj @suzannealdrich @Oldfartrant @courtcan

tell myself what?

reality?

reality is merely a whine you say?

i despise centrist democrats

i am articulating how leftists can take over the dems

it's the only feasible way forward

you meanwhile have... feelings

your brain is AWOL

when you vote 3rd party, in our stupid FPTP system, you divide the left vote and hand MAGA a win

you are a MAGA supporter

not in thought, but in action, you are

stop being immature and fucking think