@dev whoever is answering yes to this lives on a much smaller planet than I do

@ricci @dev that was my first reaction, but then someone pointed out to me that Pittsburgh is only about 30 miles from the border with Ohio which is clearly in the midwest so now I am confused

@dan @ricci @dev for real you've just answered the question-- Pittsburgh is not quite the midwest

@dan @ricci @dev to me the more interesting question is how far west the midwest goes. for ex I've always considered Kansas to be the midwest but there are those who disagree

@regehr @dan @ricci @dev Oof, that's a tough one. I lean towards the definition that "the midwest" refers to the Old Northwest — i.e., the territories platted and settled under the Northwest Ordinance — once western expansion made the name a misnomer. That ends at the Mississippi, so Iowa and Missouri are excluded, never mind Kansas and Nebraska.

@wollman @dan @ricci @dev yeah there are people who think this! but I suspect incorrectly

@regehr @dan @ricci @dev I don't believe there is a "correct" here. This question has been the subject of some study by linguists and geographers and there is no consensus.

@wollman @regehr @dan @ricci @dev I feel like there is an opportunity to give folks an unlabeled US state map and ask them to shade New England, The South, The Midwest, The Southwest, and The West … and watch as hilarity ensues.