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Can the #Mapuche teach us to transform #fear into #respect?*

by #DejahOertwig & #AmyHalberstadt

"Respect your fears: what the Mapuche approach to fear can teach us about transforming our biases and fighting prejudice
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"1 of us remembers the true story of a great-aunt who, after surprising a burglar in her kitchen, sat down with him over a cup of coffee,..

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Wow fascinating psychology/philosophy.

"...the clarity and consistency with which parents and 👉elders described fear as having no value, saying that children should outgrow their early fears.👈 The common sentiment was:

👉‘I do not feel fear; I feel respect.’👈

When we further.."

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"...probed parents and elders about these beliefs, they told us that fear isn’t useful and shouldn’t be felt. They argued that fear is debilitating and paralysing, and should be replaced with unconditional respect (ie, respect given to all life, human or nonhuman).

In the.."

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"...#Mapuche culture, respect seems to alleviate, and even replace, fear.

👉The Mapuche believe that all elements of the universe are interconnected and deserve respect.👈 They teach children to give reverence to the air, water and land, along with all the living creatures..."

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"...that inhabit these spaces.

It’s important to note that the #Mapuche don’t try to suppress their children’s fear, but to transform it into respect...

...👉the #Mapuche have a long warrior history; one of the very few cultures able to stop the advancement of the #Inka empire..."👈

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"...in the late 1400s, they also held off #Spanish rule for more than 300 years. It took the dual efforts of the #Chilean and #Argentinian militaries to finally defeat them in the late-19th century."

#Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, said

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...“A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.”

Late bestselling author and researcher #FrankHerbert...

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...converted this insight into one of the fundamental concepts of his epic #Dune saga.

Even though he probably never heard of the #Mapuche, he seems to have been onto something else.

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@HistoPol So. A thought.

The context of the Litany of Fear is that it's a Bene Gesserit mantra, and the Bene Gesserit are *bad guys*. They've manipulated galactic events, including implanting fake religions, in order to pave the way for their eugenics project to make the "perfect man," who himself turns out to be a terrifying warlord. By the second book, it turns out Paul is a fan of Hitler.

Yes, that Hitler.

@HistoPol Where we draw the line, here, between stuff Herbert put into DUNE in earnest and what was part of his critique of the "sci-fi superman" is not clear, but what is very important to remember is that *any* quotation from a fiction text happens in the context of that narrative.

Paul and the Bene Gesserit are the protagonists of DUNE, but they are not *heroes*, and we need remember that when we interact with that text.

Just saying.

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#HPsCommentary #SciFI

*A Critique of #FrankHerbert's #Dune Saga*

You've raised important points about context, and you're right that the #BeneGesserit are morally compromised manipulators whose #Eugenic project deserves scrutiny. Your reminder that #Paul and the Bene Gesserit aren't simple heroes is genuinely valuable— #Herbert absolutely subverts the "chosen one" trope.

However, I'd gently push back on a few specifics. Paul isn't presented as a #Hitler admirer; rather, 👉his...

prescient visions *horrify* him by showing catastrophic futures he wants to prevent.👈 #Herbert seems to be critiquing how messianic figures *enable* atrocities, not celebrating them. Similarly, the #BeneGesserit aren't painted as straightforward villains—they're morally complex, and #LadyJessica embodies genuine care alongside institutional manipulation.

Here's what's crucial:
👉Paul's rise is fundamentally a story of resistance against a fascistic occupying force.👈The #Harkonnen..
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and their Imperial backers exhibit clear #Nazi-like brutality and genocide against the #Fremen. Paul's leadership emerges as self-determination against alien oppression—which actually *strengthens* your larger point. 👉Herbert was warning us about how authoritarianism corrupts even justified resistance movements.👈
The tragedy isn't that Paul is evil; it's that fighting monsters can turn you into one.

Context matters enormously, as you say. But Herbert's genius was showing how *good @orionkidder

intentions* produce terrible outcomes—a more sophisticated critique than simple villainy.

Ultimately, the Litany of Fear itself exemplifies Herbert's central insight: **a tool is only as ethical as its wielder.** The Bene Gesserit developed this mantra as a discipline for mastering fear and maintaining mental clarity—ostensibly a worthy goal. But in their hands, it becomes a mechanism for control and manipulation. This mirrors what researchers studying the Mapuche have @orionkidder

discovered: fear and respect are not opposites, but *choices*. The Mapuche transform fear into respect—a deliberate, thoughtful response that recognizes the intrinsic value of others rather than treating them as threats to be managed. Fear is reactive and paralyzing; respect is intentional and connective. The Bene Gesserit teach fear-management to create obedience; the Mapuche teach respect-cultivation to foster interconnection. The *same psychological tool*, deployed with @orionkidder
opposite intentions, produces opposite outcomes. Herbert's Dune saga asks us to examine not just what tools we use, but *why* we use them and *whom* we serve. Whether a practice transforms fear into wisdom or weaponizes it depends entirely on whether the user seeks domination or genuine understanding. That distinction—between technique and purpose—is where morality actually lives. @orionkidder
@HistoPol I'm not convinced I agree with your reading of Dune, but damn, friend, you have thought this through!

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Thank you.

#Dune and the other original sequels are one of the limited number of books 📚 I have been coming across time and again.

The story is just so way above anything #StarWars (which I also like, but rather for entertainment reasons only has to offer with regard to outer and inner insights, it is really a pitty #FrankHerbert is no longer among us.

But maybe for the better? --Humanity is really--knowingly--pushing Earth 🌍 's climate towards Dune's.

@HistoPol Yeah, Dune and Star Wars are just very different narratives. Herbert, for all that I do find his books problematic in various ways, set out to say something about the trope of the all-powerful sci-fi hero. Lucas set out, as far as I can tell, to make a really compelling adventure narrative that also kinda had a message, but such a simple and abstract one that anyone can identify with it, which is a strategy for success, to be sure.

@HistoPol I stumbled across a blog many years ago of someone who wanted to make SF as good as Lucas, and he'd read the concept that to learn the master's ways, you have to walk the master's path (or something like that).

So, he retraced Lucas' influences all the way back to #Lensman, through the #GreenLanterns, then #Dune and the #BeneGesserit, which all lead to #StarWars. His argument, and I think he's right, is that SF has been doing "galactic cop" stories for decades.

@HistoPol Dune stands out as not being *in favour* of the galactic super cop, and I think it deserves credit for that.

But since we're here, let me throw another idea at you. The last time I reread Dune, I noticed how much of it is about puberty.

@HistoPol Before he takes the water of life, Paul is constantly talking about how his powers are exceeding his mother's, and he's not comfortable with it. I recall the first time I realized I was taller than my mother.

It's an odd experience for (most) boys to become physically larger than our moms and in so doing grow into the role of "man" in a patriarchal society, where we're expected to also take a higher status position than our moms even though they raised us and gave us life.

@HistoPol Factor in just how phallic sand worms are as well as all the tough posturing with regard to the Fremen and the "hard times make hard people" myth, and you get a story that's very much about masculinity and about getting to a physical size as well as a social status where it's suddenly possible to do real harm in the world. That would be the psychological reading of Paul's fear of his "terrible purpose." I've wanted to write a paper about it for about ten years now.

@HistoPol Tangent: you might like this. It's a blog by a classicist about that myth, "hard times make hard people," using Dune as the entry point but mostly talking about the Spartans. I don't think he connects this myth to masculinity explicitly, but it's in the same realm. Very much worth your time.

https://acoup.blog/category/collections/the-fremen-mirage/

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