"Zelensky says allies asked him to scale back attacks on Russian energy"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0e7lrxrelwo
Yeah, fuck that
Fuck any country in Europe still stuck on #oil and #gas
Fuck bigot Americans in giant low fuel economy pickup trucks whining
Fuck you India, Fuck you China
Fuck you all
All countries:
Get the fuck off oil and gas. Period. End of story
Addressing the #climatecrisis and defunding vile regimes is job #1
Ukraine is leading the way on freedom from fossil fuel fascism...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qdwpnwzwpo
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-ukraine-oil-drone-attack-fire-export/33719116.html
Excellent! Keep hitting Russia's oil infrastructure until Ukraine is whole again.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/03/30/ukraine-russia-putin-zelensky-drones/
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260330-russia-expels-uk-diplomat-on-spying-allegations
https://www.axios.com/2026/03/30/zelensky-russia-iran-war-ukraine
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/100-Oil-Is-Solving-Russias-Budget-Problem.html
Ukraine launched a series of drone attacks on Russia's top export hubs, including Novorossiysk on the Black Sea as well as Primorsk and Ust-Luga on the Baltic Sea.
Uruguay did what most nations still call impossible: it built a power grid that runs almost entirely on renewables—at half the cost of fossil fuels. The physicist who led that transformation says the same playbook could work anywhere—if governments have the courage to change the rules.
@roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce Good for them, but here is the big 80-point asterisk. Renewables are cheaper if you do not have any fossil fuels. Which the article points out, they don't.
For Russia or the USA, not so much.
We should still be putting solar on everything flat, just because it's silly not to at this point.
@mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01
the cost of the climate crisis and vile regimes matter too
you fund russia, russia kills people, you have a couple of EF5s in nebraska, you kill people
of course, the "decision makers" don't know or don't care, but that remains the truth
@benroyce @roblosricos @Npars01 Well yeah. But military power still relies on fossil fuels (and gas -> Haber process -> explosives) so warlike regimes are going to be pro-dinosaur for the foreseeable future.
We might have a green utopia someday, but there will never be a green empire!
@mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01
you're still going to consume fossil fuels no matter what
obviously if you get the civilian transportation and heating infrastructure off it you make a big dent. make it cheaper too
the goal isn't perfection mike, that's an invalid perspective
@mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce
Most petro-state's primary benefit from having fossil fuels is the ability to export them. If the non petro-states transition to renewables (which provides both environmental and national security benefits to them) it cuts off the export markets the petro-states rely on and that will force the petro-states to adopt green technology in turn.
@RantingCanuck @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce The problem with being a petroleum exporter is that money goes to the rulers of the nation, which therefore do not have to care about their populations.
They can spend on either security forces to keep a boot on the public's neck, or handouts to keep them pacified, or some mixture. The rest they just use to live large.
They also spend money to manipulate politics elsewhere and keep that game going. The USA is easy to manipulate with money.
@mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce
There are a few asterisks. Uruguay's peak demand is below 2GW. They've about 1.5GW of hydro capacity. They've added some 1.6GW of biomass capacity which they use to generate about .3GW baseline – this in itself brings extra questions.
And about 1.5GW of wind capacity which they use to supplement hydro.
During peaks they still use oil power, like right at this moment.
In the region there's for example Paraguay that uses virtually pure hydro.
@mike805 You mention Russia as if anyone here had even the faintest impression that they are part of this discussion.
This is about bombing the shit out of Russia's oil infrastructure, not asking what *they* think about renewables.
@Photo55 A blown up barrel of oil has a value of zero dollars, so I agree with you there!
@txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce Not only that but they are going to pump another barrel somewhere to replace it. So you double the environmental impact.
Probably more than double. There is no clean tech on an explosion.
@mike805 Well Russia should stop their stupid war then shouldn't they — Putin can then unleash the environmentalist hidden deep inside him and stop pumping all that extra oil.
@txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce Yeah, not likely. There is no environmentalist inside Putin. He is the best current example of a hard power, militarist, fossil fuel dinosaur powered leader.
Green utopia, if it ever exists, will have to figure out how to defend itself against such people. Because both warlike pricks and the dinosaur juice to power their forces will always exist.
@mike805 @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos @Npars01
fuck green utopia
we're just talking about transitioning off fossil fuels, which will never be 100%
please stop using some vision of perfection as a basis for your words. it's not honest about what the real topic is here
if we make russia be able to field only 10 tanks instead of 100, that matters. that's the point of *transition*. fuck perfection
@benroyce @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos @Npars01 My point is, installing solar panels is all well and good. But anyone who actually gives up producing and refining fossil fuels is militarily at the mercy of anyone who does not do that.
Using solar for civilian power to free up oil and gas for military preparedness is a good idea.
This fuel shortage will make small scale panel and battery systems very popular in places where people used to use generators. That will have benefits after it's over.
@mike805
"Fossil".
Finite resource, on the downslope.
Hydrocarbons: a convenient dense energy store.
Alcohols: likewise
Terpenes and so on, likewise.
Ammonia: no CO2, electrosynthetic and biological processes to produce; toxic; feedstock for explosive
Hydrazine: denser; more toxic; atmospheric CO2 plus N2; but, not keen.
Point 1: none, including first, are even synonymous with "fossil".
Point 2: all except NH3 remove CO2 from atmosphere.
@mike805 @benroyce @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos
Keeping fossil fuels in use for national security reasons doesn't make a nation safer.
It makes a nation's national defense vulnerable to the whims of petrostate despots & megalomaniacal oil oligarchs.
Murderous thugs like #PrinceBonesaw & Putin use fossil fuel supply to manipulate elections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve_(United_States)
Pearl Harbor was triggered by an oil embargo.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8dlpr074q3o
@Npars01 @benroyce @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos > doesn't make a nation safer.
Depends on if your nation has domestic oil and gas, or not.
If you do, then being able to pump and refine the oil, and run the Haber process using the gas, allows your nation to be a military power.
If you do not have fossil fuels then your military power is fragile and dependent on imports. UK going to oil-fired ships in the early 20th century got the whole Middle East oil politics problem started. 1/3
@Npars01 @benroyce @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos Japan tried to become an empire without domestic oil. When the USA embargoed their imports (due to photo evidence of atrocities in China) they were screwed and had to make what everyone knew was a stupid strategic decision to avoid instant defeat.
USA and Russia are two nations that can be empires because they have oil, gas, and most of the minerals they need, without requiring sea transport.
There is no military power without fossil fuels. 2/3
@Npars01 @benroyce @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos So far nobody has an all -nuclear or all-electric economy. Maybe someday someone will synthesize all their liquid fuels and lubricants. We know how.
But war is a quantitative economic exercise (and a stupid waste, but that's beside the point) and you can lose on the numbers even if you're technologically superior. Ask the Germans about that.
So you have to use the fast easy method, externalities be damned. And right now that is oil and gas. 3/3
@mike805 Here we agree, but how do you write this up and still argue against Ukraine smashing Russian oil infrastructure?
It's like you have all the right ingredients to bake an excellent cheesecake, but are somehow trying to turn them into a hamburger.
@txtx @Npars01 @benroyce @Photo55 @roblosricos I am not opposed, on military strategic grounds, to Ukraine blowing up Russia's oil infrastructure. Of course you do that in war. It's an obvious essential target that self-destructs once hit.
Just saying it sucks for the environment and for the rest of the world that could use the fuel.
And I am surprised that the green movement is not applying its moral weight toward trying to end all three of these wars on save-the-Earth grounds.
@benroyce @txtx @Npars01 @Photo55 @roblosricos If it resulted in a permanent net reduction in fossil fuel consumption worldwide, maybe. That would assume that high fuel prices drive solar adoption and the change sticks.
If it results in the fuel supply being made up elsewhere, then not so much.
That remains to be seen. More solar would be nice, and sometimes it just takes a push to get people moving.
@mike805 @benroyce @txtx @Npars01 @Photo55
fucking germany is looking to turn to nukes for power.
both long-term storage facilities for spent nuclear fuel rods in the u.s. are currently in a state of meltdown.
how serious of a problem is this? no one knows, because any equipment needed to measure the effects melt down when deployed.
@roblosricos @benroyce @txtx @Npars01 @Photo55 Germany had nuclear and should have kept it. The people who made the decision to destroy them ought to be in prison for treason. Germany let a Communist apparatchik run their country and now they are screwed.
There are no long-term storage facilities in the USA for spent fuel. They are either in the pools or in dry casks. The latter are pretty inert. The former could be a problem.
The kitty litter incident was unfortunate, but not a true meltdown.
@mike805 @benroyce @txtx @Npars01 @Photo55
"Last February's explosion at the WIPP dump for long-lived intermediate-level nuclear waste from the US's nuclear weapons program remains unexplained, writes Jim Green. But with the site's history of ignored warnings, 'missing' safety culture, lack of supervision and dubious contractor appointments, it surely came as no surprise - and further accidents appear inevitable."
1/2
Last February's explosion at the WIPP dump for long-lived intermediate-level nuclear waste from the US's nuclear weapons program remains unexplained, writes Jim Green. But with the site's history of ignored warnings, 'missing' safety culture, lack of supervision and dubious contractor appointments, it surely came as no surprise - and further accidents appear inevitable.
@mike805 The Green parties in some European countries, such as Germany, have been key in getting Ukraine support and weapons.
As of now, Ukraine is what's keeping Russia from continuing its war further west into the EU/UK. If we let Ukraine fall, the ecological disaster will eclipse anything happening in Russia right now.
@txtx @mike805 @benroyce @Photo55 @roblosricos
A lot of what's going on in MAGA world can be seen as a fossil fuel industry determined to keep its hegemony.
Wars that profit donors & personal profiteering
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5810168-putin-benefits-iran-war/
Executive orders to ignore the costs of climate change
https://www.hcn.org/articles/forest-service-overhaul-sows-confusion-concern/
https://www.eenews.net/articles/forest-service-shakeup-tests-political-independence/
The public corruption to pick the 'winners' in the economy
@txtx @mike805 @benroyce @Photo55 @roblosricos
Ukraine is defending itself by going after the fossil fuel funding of Putin's wars. A just act.
Trump is defending the funding behind his fascist movement. An unjust act.
https://theokpost.com/news/business/when-the-bill-comes-due-koch-network-positioned-to-profit-from-iran-war-as-former-officials-cheer-the-conflict-and-oklahoma-farmers-pay-the-price/2026/03/17/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-023-02526-9
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140988323004541
The fossil fuel industry funds war & ecocide.
@Npars01 @txtx @mike805 @benroyce @Photo55 @roblosricos I hope Ukraine manages to kill ALL of Putin's oil export while crude is trading so high, so as to maximize the lost opportunity caused by Putin's imperialism.
If Trump doesn't want $10 a gallon gasoline prices he can stop his war on Iran at any time.
@Photo55 @Npars01 @txtx @mike805 @benroyce @roblosricos What Iran lacks is the means to invade the US. They COULD bomb the US by firing Shaheds or ballistic missiles from cargo ships at sea but have chosen not to. This would be made less likely not more likely by Trump disengaging.
Probably the US would lose most of its Middle East clients, and Isra-Hell might find themselves fighting an existential war they cannot win, but I don't have a problem with either of those. You CAN btw make an argument for pre-emptive strikes against Israel's nuclear weapons facilities given the possible response
@LukefromDC @Npars01 @txtx @mike805 @benroyce @Photo55
why do people think that causing other people to suffer will somehow affect the dictator they are forced to live under?
like the iraq war - generational pain and suffering for common people, because the leaders of a few countries had a squabble over this or that.
fuck - nationalism is for sadists...
@roblosricos Russia is the aggressor state. Ukrainians have a right to defend themselves. Russia can go home and stop the war any day they choose. It is 100% up to them.
@roblosricos @txtx @Npars01 @mike805 @benroyce @Photo55 THAT doesn't, the people of Ukraine do not owe defense service to anyone but themselves. By that I mean direct territorial defense, NOT defense of the government of the day.
There are anarchists fighting in Ukraine who's loyalty is to their battle comrades, their neighborhood, and the anarchist movement. They may share an enemy, logistics, and even intel with Zelinsky's government (and that's considered very spicy) but not loyalty. Their loyalty is to the people not the government, same as a Queer air defense gunner defending Iran and their own city from bombardment.
@roblosricos @txtx @Npars01 @mike805 @benroyce @Photo55 The advantage of killing oil exports instead of people is obvious: defunds Putin's killing machine instead of killing conscripted Russian kids.
Killing trade makes war expensive, as Trump is finding out to his sorrow. Make it expensive enough and dictators will have to buy less of it.
Leaders across the world, from Ukraine and Europe to Africa and Asia, pleaded countless times with Putin to stop this war and stop killing civilians.
But Russia hasn't listened.
If you, @roblosricos, finally found a way to convince Russia to stop killing civilians and leave Ukraine and the rest of Europe alone...well, you won't be the first to try but go ahead.
@mike805 @benroyce @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos
There's a dozen oil-producing nations that would differ with the idea of "fossil fuel means national security".
Especially since oil supply is being consolidated into fewer & fewer hands.
Nigeria still got bombed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States_strikes_in_Nigeria
Venezuela had their president kidnapped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_intervention_in_Venezuela
Canada & Greenland are threatened by Putin's "joint arctic energy projects" with Trump's fossil fuel billionaires
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-us-saudi-arctic-energy-rdif-ukraine-russia-capital/
@Npars01 @benroyce @txtx @Photo55 @roblosricos The first two are basically colonies. Their oil was for export, not domestic power. And yes a technologically superior power (with its own fossil fuels) can attack you from the air. Oil is a prerequisite for empire, not a guarantee of security.
Canada, is too big and too right next door for the USA to actually invade and occupy. Their best move right now, if they take the threat seriously, would be to fully embrace American style gun rights.
@mike805 @benroyce @txtx @roblosricos @Npars01
There are logistics hazards in producing your fuel in fields of drills, piping it, concentrating the crude, moving that to a refinery, a refinery, storing the refined products - fuels, moving them to depots, storing them...
If those are not being nobbled in Russia, they are being in the Gulf.
And we're in the Baltic.
Contemplate whether 10 000 dribbles in 10 000 map squares each taking air and water might have its points.
@mike805 @roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce
The damage to the climate is already expensive.
More so than not burning oil for heat and traction.
Electrochemical nitrogen fixation is in early stages, and feeding the world may require fossil feedstock for a while yet. Alas.
Democracy continues to ignore how far the fossil fuel industry is willing to go to keep its customers trapped.
https://cleantechnica.com/2026/03/28/iran-war-is-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-fossil-fuels/
https://electrek.co/2026/03/27/iran-war-spikes-energy-prices-uk-homes-ditch-fossil-fuels-fast/
https://sojo.net/articles/opinion/war-hell-so-are-fossil-fuels-war-runs
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-04-03/uae-s-top-oil-executive-has-a-plan-to-fix-cop28
@roblosricos @Npars01 @benroyce
It’s a nice piece. But Forbes avoids mentioning that the interviewee, “Energy Minister from 2008 to 2015”, was a member of a Broad Front government.
As China continues to show, strong socialist policies support converting to renewables. Meanwhile, free market economies support what the powerful industrialists prefer.
Want Greener policies? Get a more socialist government!
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