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Matthias Schmidt Mar 20

Excellent example for the list of answers as to why I try to keep my household linux-free:
"stores the user's birth date for age verification, as required by recent laws
in California (AB-1043), Colorado (SB26-051), Brazil (Lei 15.211/2025), etc."

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954

The brainrot is big in this one.
also… TIL: "systemd-userdbd" wtflol.
Kinda amazed how they manage to still find new nooks and crannies to metastasise into, in their haphazard nonchalant fashion.

extra-lol for this idiocy:

@nblr okay, you do use BSD then?

@daccle yes. amongst other options.

@nblr @daccle w-what are the other options?

@lritter @daccle freebsd, openbsd, lsdbsd (macos)

Metin Seven 🎨Mar 20

@nblr @lritter @daccle So is using MacOS not that bad? I'm on Mac and was flirting with installing Asahi Linux in the near future, if Apple turns out to further enshittify, along with other US Big Tech.

You might find this interesting too by the way:

https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware

open-slopware

Free/Open Source Software tainted by LLM developers/developed by genAI boosters, along with alternatives. Fork of the repo by @gen-ai-transparency after its deletion.

Codeberg.org

Daniel Gibson Mar 20

@nblr
Impressive how Poettering always manages to reach new lows.

@Doomed_Daniel and he seems to enjoy it.

Not a Spring Onion Mar 20

@nblr @Doomed_Daniel

Must be a kink.

@wakame @nblr @Doomed_Daniel it can be a sign of early alzheimers when someone over-relies on cognitive help. i'm not a doc tho.

Howard Chu @ Symas Mar 20

@nblr https://mastodon.social/@hyc/116201483436564068

@hyc As much as I believe that everybody is entitled to learn from their own mistakes… doing so at the expense of others while ignoring the mistakes of others and not learning from them is inconsiderate and silly.

@nblr Naja. As an admin you can set it. Are you not an admin at home in your PCs?

@nblr at the same time there are linux distros that don’t follow these “requirements”. And also those without systemd.

Quincy ⁂Mar 20

OMG

Quincy ⁂Mar 20

That's *two* new lows then.

Invoking the slop-machine is really the icing on the cake!

I hate this timeline so much.

jesterchen42 Mar 20

@quincy @nblr Ich kann mir nicht helfen, aber ich bekomme mehr und mehr das Gefühl, daß etwas sehr Wichtiges in mir drin kurz davor steht zu zerbrechen. Oder zu zerreißen.

Ich kann das nicht näher in Worte fassen oder greifen. Die Idiotie, die Dummheit, die Faulheit und das Gefühl vom ausgeliefert und überwacht Sein, ... das paßt alles nicht in mein Verständnis von Freiheit und Reichtum. Und jetzt geht das auch noch via Linux (neben so vielen anderen Bereichen!) in mein Leben.

Stehe ich vor einem Nervenzusammenbruch, gebe ich innerlich nur noch auf, Burnout, Amoklauf*? Ich will diese Welt und diese "wichtigen, mächtigen" Menschen so nicht mehr. 😔

* Nein, ich werde weder mir noch anderen etwas antun, keine Sorge. Aber die Schere im Kopf tut weh. vgl. auch https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog/116249624200196705

Kuketz-Blog 🛡 (@[email protected])

Frage an euch: Wie geht ihr damit um, am Arbeitsplatz Microsoft-Tools einsetzen zu müssen, obwohl ihr das eigentlich ablehnt? Windows, Teams, OneDrive, 365 – alles Dinge, die ihr privat niemals anfassen würdet. Was macht das mit euch? Verdrängt ihr es, habt ihr euch arrangiert, oder zermürbt es euch mit der Zeit? /kuk #microsoft #bullshit

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@nblr still systemd hate on my timeline in 2026? well if you don't use linux how could you know how much systemd is driving its modernization, improving UX, stability, security and development cross-distribution

datenwolf Mar 20

Literally nothing of that is driven by system. As a matter of fact, I'd say it's either massively slowing down any efforts in that direction, or even detrimental to them.

@nblr https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_473

systemd has not implemented age verification

@nblr vermutlich unpopular opinion hier, aber hier systemd vorzuführen (vom AI zeug mal abgesehen) ist halt falsch, oder? der github thread erwähnt doch im 2. paragraph, dass `xdg-desktop-portal` die altersverifizierung hinzufügen will. Das systemd da sagt: "hey wir speichern ähnliche infos eh schon, dann könnte man das system hier auch benutzen" find ich.. okay?

Also politisch klar, absolute dumme scheisse. aber den systemd hammer hier rauszuholen ist halt auch baity?

@craftamap Hast Du den Thread gelesen?!

Interpipes 💙Mar 20

@nblr @tfiebig there's something darkly comic about seeing them splitting hairs over miliseconds of cpu time whilst rushing to implement the tools of authoritarianism

Laurent Bercot Mar 20

@nblr I wish more people would realize that Linux and systemd are not synonymous, and it is still (I think) possible to save Linux

@ska I wish that too. Most of my current linux installs are openwrt - and that's not only on cpe class devices.

aburka 🫣Mar 20

@ska @nblr it's going to be difficult, systemd has wormed its way into so many corners of the OS in preparation for the complete takeover. You can't even use fucking GNOME anymore without it

Laurent Bercot Mar 20

@aburka @nblr Believe me, I know 😑 and it may not be possible to save GNOME.

@aburka @ska @nblr Win/win.

Seriously, though, I’m trying to decide whether to switch from Debian to Gentoo or move to one of the BSDs.

d@nny disc@ mc² Mar 20

@mathew @aburka @ska @nblr alpine has the only distro package manager i respect and trust and its kde packaging is extremely robust

d@nny disc@ mc² Mar 20

@mathew @aburka @ska @nblr sad face that openbox is unmaintained i was at peace when i could just startx into it

@hipsterelectron @aburka @ska @nblr My other reason to switch is AI policy, and I can’t find what Alpine’s policy is, if they have one.

d@nny disc@ mc² Mar 20

@mathew @aburka @ska @nblr seems likely that they do not have an explicit policy but https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Package_policies this page and the linked {CODING,COMMIT}STYLE.md files (which are immensely precise) in aports are quite difficult to conform to from a statistical machine. in particular the requirement of FSF/OSI-compatible licensing can be said to preclude that on its face

Package policies - Alpine Linux

aburka 🫣Mar 20

@hipsterelectron @mathew @ska @nblr they are likely working on it https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/116110902229403709

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] what do you mean? in the Alpine sphere, @postmarketOS already adopted an anti-AI policy, which will probably be adopted by Alpine too.

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LumiWorx Mar 20

They closed and locked the issue queue on it as they committed age verification to code, so i opened a new issue to bring up how they were going to cover their asses when the lawsuits start flying... it was outright deleted.

They don't want public discourse or to even acknowledge that users have problems with the door they've opened.

I doubt that there's anything already in any system level process that is even remotely open to possible legal concerns ... until now.

Numerfolt Mar 20

@lumiworx @nblr Now I need to find out how to remove systemd from my system...

LumiWorx Mar 20

@Numerfolt @nblr

I'm not even sure if that's a possibility, and if it isn't, then the alternative is to move to one of the BSD flavors, or something more obscure than the usual distros at least.

It's truly a shame that once Microslop pushed the door open to give Linux an opportunity to become a desktop of choice, decisions are made to sabotage that from readily happening.

Numerfolt Mar 20

@lumiworx @nblr Artix somehow does it I think

And I agree with you. But I'm not that surprised either, that's Facebooks money at work :(

LumiWorx Mar 20

@Numerfolt @nblr

....

Well, there is one more possibility, but not a hopeful one.

Lock into whatever version of distro you're currently running until your box drops dead, or someone makes some serious changes to their 'policy' choices.

серафими многоꙮчитїи Mar 21

@lumiworx @Numerfolt @nblr Lots of linux distros either don't use at all or don't have a hard dependency on systemsd - Gentoo being the one I am most familiar with.

Edit: But generally a distro that does hard depend on systemd can't easily have systemd removed, you generally need to move to a different distro in that case.

LumiWorx Mar 21

@flaviusb @Numerfolt @nblr

And as I've been looking at what there is available, besides the BSD variants, there's probably 20 or so distros that don't use it.

Unfortunately, the list isn't exactly full of better known flavors, with the exceptions of #Gentoo and #Slackware. Most seem to be relatively unknown and small in user count, but that may soon change.

I intend to compile as complete a list as possible and post them - with links - for those who are concerned and interested in switching.