@peter from that image, i don't get it?
when a jew is offended at someone yelling »free palestine,« and someone replies that they don't find it offensive when »free palestine« is yelled, then that's tankie racism, or what?
@peter
if you see that as the racist part, then i non-tankieously disagree, and i'd suggest this piece by mohammed el-kurd as a counter argument as to why,
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/09/jewish-settlers-stole-my-house-its-not-my-fault-theyre-jewish/
»Palestinians are told the words we use dwarf the decades of violence enacted against us by the self-proclaimed Jewish State. A drone is one thing, but a trope—a trope is unacceptable.«
@peter
if you are genuinely against the zionist occupation and genocide, how can you even hear »free palestine« as an insult?
an anti-racist response could be to yell »free palestine« in return — not to go to social media with: »i'm not racist, but ...«
@pelle @peter I have a jewish friend who is against the occupation and the genocide. Though he doesn't much appreciate people shouting "free palestine" at him for wearing a kippah.
He is pro-palestinian. Why does he take offence? Probably because that shout implies that he, just because he is a jew, is suspected by default to side with Israel and is responsible for that state's actions.
Shouting "free palestine" to the street/public is quite different that shouting at someone.
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this "antizionist" rabbi #DavidPolsky all you so-called "leftists" and "antifascists" here are defending from having to hear "antisemites" yelling »free palestine« has written some amazing stuff about "the Jewish army's defensive war" on gaza. here from october 2025, enjoy:
»If, however, the Jewish army has the ability to subdue the enemy by means of starvation and dehydration, this would enable them to accomplish their military goals without risking Jewish lives. When that is the case, there is no obligation to pursue peace. [...] Should the enemy reject such peace offers, not only is it permitted to starve the population, but the Mitzvah of leaving the enemy a passage to flee also no longer applies, and thus the Jewish army may surround the locale on all sides.« https://thelehrhaus.com/timely-thoughts/the-starvation-of-gaza-a-halakhic-argument/
@peter @pelle @winter I don't know much who the Rabbi is. If he is a public figure and people called him out for his personal views, yeah then of course it's fine to approach him for that. I didn't think the specific person in the post was the issue, but rather the principle.
It sounded to me initially that you didn't care if a random Jew was called at on the street because they shouldn't take offense because "free palestine" is a good slogan (i agree, it is a good slogan).
> I didn't think the specific person in the post was the issue, but rather the principle.
well, that is the problem: you are entirely willing to buy in to a counter-factual hypothetical (or put more bluntly: a lie) to prove a point.
what are the effects of "the left" being willing to go on the offensive against someone for made-up charges of being anti-jewish?
well, it got #JeremyCorbyn evicted from #LabourUK. at their latest party conference the danish red-green alliance ( #Enhedslisten ) expelled the palestine-solidarity group for being »damaging to the party« and they voted to confirm »israels right to exist.« this is enabling crackdown on protests and allowing #Terma and #Mærsk to continue to supply weapons for the genocide. how's it going in #Vänsterpartiet ?
if you're cool with your jewish friend is "pro-palestinean" while being offended at »free palestine«, would you then also be cool with your white friend throwing a tantrum upon hearing »black lives matter« ? i'd be worried about your friend, because he's making the same claim to be "pro-palestine" as this blood-thirsty rabbi is.
two years of fucking full on zionist genocide and you're instantly ready to tone-police someone for »free palestine«, wtf?! please read el-kurd's essay i posted earlier in the thread.
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/09/jewish-settlers-stole-my-house-its-not-my-fault-theyre-jewish/
@winter @peter
perhaps that someone yelling »free palestine« was hoping to greet a fellow antizionist? however, given how he ranted about it on social media, it's pretty clear he is not!
when people yell »free palestine« towards me, i simply yell »free palestine« back, rather than assume that they assume that i'm a fascist. #mentalgymnastics #selfvictimization
@peter @pelle Israel needs as many people as possible to perfectly equate Jew with Israeli. Israel wants everyone to see any expression of Judaism as implicitly an endorsement and reminder of Israel. Israel wants people to yell things at Jews; it requires Jews to always be unsafe outside of Israel - that's it's prime excuse for existing. Israel would have it so every Jew needs to exhaustively, persistently, impossibly perform for a gentile audience unlimited expressions of revulsion toward it's genocidal occupation via rejection of every marker it takes care to drape itself in, in order to be parsed as anything but complicit. Israel needs ownership of Judaism like a corporation needs ownership of the intellectual property of a known brand.
We should not be carrying out Israel's ultimately antisemetic agenda which is provided to it by the white christian fascist US and European powers that give it license by following along on any level with this propaganda and all it entails, including harassing innocent Jews with our presumptions about what being Jewish, not Israeli, but Jewish, entails.
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