PeterMar 19
a lot of the tankie anti-colonialist guys are just racists.
Show threadbrainwashed by lentilsMar 19

@peter from that image, i don't get it?

when a jew is offended at someone yelling »free palestine,« and someone replies that they don't find it offensive when »free palestine« is yelled, then that's tankie racism, or what?

Show threadPeterMar 19
@pelle yelling "free Palestine" at someone because they are Jewish is anti-Semitic, and refusing to understand that is the racist part.
Show threadbrainwashed by lentilsMar 19

@peter
if you see that as the racist part, then i non-tankieously disagree, and i'd suggest this piece by mohammed el-kurd as a counter argument as to why,
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/09/jewish-settlers-stole-my-house-its-not-my-fault-theyre-jewish/

»Palestinians are told the words we use dwarf the decades of violence enacted against us by the self-proclaimed Jewish State. A drone is one thing, but a trope—a trope is unacceptable.«

Jewish settlers stole my house. It’s not my fault they’re Jewish.

Palestinians are told the words we use dwarf the decades of violence enacted against us by the self-proclaimed Jewish State. A drone is one thing, but a trope—a trope is unacceptable. No more.

Mondoweiss
Show threadPeterMar 19
@pelle sorry, i want to get this straight, you think it's totally fine to go up to a random Jewish person in New York City or Paris and yell "free Palestine" because they are wearing a kippah?
Show threadbrainwashed by lentilsMar 19

@peter
if you are genuinely against the zionist occupation and genocide, how can you even hear »free palestine« as an insult?

an anti-racist response could be to yell »free palestine« in return — not to go to social media with: »i'm not racist, but ...«

Show threadPeterMar 19
@pelle do you not understand the distinction between yelling "free Palestine" and yelling "free Palestine" specifically at a random Jewish person in the street?
Show threadbrainwashed by lentilsMar 19
@peter
#JacobBerger has an excellent little #tutorial on how as a jew to deal with others yelling »free palestine«
Show threadSamuelMar 19

@pelle @peter I have a jewish friend who is against the occupation and the genocide. Though he doesn't much appreciate people shouting "free palestine" at him for wearing a kippah.

He is pro-palestinian. Why does he take offence? Probably because that shout implies that he, just because he is a jew, is suspected by default to side with Israel and is responsible for that state's actions.

Shouting "free palestine" to the street/public is quite different that shouting at someone.

Show threadbrainwashed by lentilsMar 19

@peter
@samuel
@winter
this "antizionist" rabbi #DavidPolsky all you so-called "leftists" and "antifascists" here are defending from having to hear "antisemites" yelling »free palestine« has written some amazing stuff about "the Jewish army's defensive war" on gaza. here from october 2025, enjoy:

»If, however, the Jewish army has the ability to subdue the enemy by means of starvation and dehydration, this would enable them to accomplish their military goals without risking Jewish lives. When that is the case, there is no obligation to pursue peace. [...] Should the enemy reject such peace offers, not only is it permitted to starve the population, but the Mitzvah of leaving the enemy a passage to flee also no longer applies, and thus the Jewish army may surround the locale on all sides.« https://thelehrhaus.com/timely-thoughts/the-starvation-of-gaza-a-halakhic-argument/

Humanitarian Aid for Gaza: A Halakhic Argument | The Lehrhaus

David Polsky explores a passage in the Sifrei that is key to articulating a Halakahic position on withholding food as a military tactic.

The Lehrhaus
Show threadPeter
@pelle @samuel @winter you insist on missing the point.
Mar 19 at 3:10pmWeb
Show threadbrainwashed by lentilsMar 19
@peter many more people should yell »free palestine« to the zionist rabbi.
Show threadPeterMar 19
@pelle because you insist on missing my point, it leads me to the conclusion that you are, in fact, one of the tankie anti-Semites that I was talking about in my original post. I really fear what's about to happen in the world.
Show threadWomen Interface Network  Mar 19
@peter @pelle @samuel when it’s about Jews the goyish brain shuts down
Show threadSamuelMar 19

@peter @pelle @winter I don't know much who the Rabbi is. If he is a public figure and people called him out for his personal views, yeah then of course it's fine to approach him for that. I didn't think the specific person in the post was the issue, but rather the principle.

It sounded to me initially that you didn't care if a random Jew was called at on the street because they shouldn't take offense because "free palestine" is a good slogan (i agree, it is a good slogan).

Show threadbrainwashed by lentils6d ago

@samuel @peter @winter

> I didn't think the specific person in the post was the issue, but rather the principle.

well, that is the problem: you are entirely willing to buy in to a counter-factual hypothetical (or put more bluntly: a lie) to prove a point.

what are the effects of "the left" being willing to go on the offensive against someone for made-up charges of being anti-jewish?

well, it got #JeremyCorbyn evicted from #LabourUK. at their latest party conference the danish red-green alliance ( #Enhedslisten ) expelled the palestine-solidarity group for being »damaging to the party« and they voted to confirm »israels right to exist.« this is enabling crackdown on protests and allowing #Terma and #Mærsk to continue to supply weapons for the genocide. how's it going in #Vänsterpartiet ?

if you're cool with your jewish friend is "pro-palestinean" while being offended at »free palestine«, would you then also be cool with your white friend throwing a tantrum upon hearing »black lives matter« ? i'd be worried about your friend, because he's making the same claim to be "pro-palestine" as this blood-thirsty rabbi is.

two years of fucking full on zionist genocide and you're instantly ready to tone-police someone for »free palestine«, wtf?! please read el-kurd's essay i posted earlier in the thread.
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/09/jewish-settlers-stole-my-house-its-not-my-fault-theyre-jewish/

Jewish settlers stole my house. It’s not my fault they’re Jewish.

Palestinians are told the words we use dwarf the decades of violence enacted against us by the self-proclaimed Jewish State. A drone is one thing, but a trope—a trope is unacceptable. No more.

Mondoweiss
Show threadPeter6d ago
@pelle @samuel @winter dude, fuck off. it's not a counter-factual hypothetical, a random person yelled "free Palestine" at another random person on the street just because they looked Jewish. that's racist. i don't even care if the Jew was a Zionist, assuming he is a Zionist because he's Jewish **is racist**. conflating Zionism with Judaism **is anti-Semitic** learn how to fucking read, and fuck off with your sea-lioning.
Show threadbrainwashed by lentils6d ago
@peter @samuel @winter
fuck off with your anti-palestinean racism and your "i don't care" about genocide support.