@samuel @peter @winter

> I didn't think the specific person in the post was the issue, but rather the principle.

well, that is the problem: you are entirely willing to buy in to a counter-factual hypothetical (or put more bluntly: a lie) to prove a point.

what are the effects of "the left" being willing to go on the offensive against someone for made-up charges of being anti-jewish?

well, it got #JeremyCorbyn evicted from #LabourUK. at their latest party conference the danish red-green alliance ( #Enhedslisten ) expelled the palestine-solidarity group for being »damaging to the party« and they voted to confirm »israels right to exist.« this is enabling crackdown on protests and allowing #Terma and #Mærsk to continue to supply weapons for the genocide. how's it going in #Vänsterpartiet ?

if you're cool with your jewish friend is "pro-palestinean" while being offended at »free palestine«, would you then also be cool with your white friend throwing a tantrum upon hearing »black lives matter« ? i'd be worried about your friend, because he's making the same claim to be "pro-palestine" as this blood-thirsty rabbi is.

two years of fucking full on zionist genocide and you're instantly ready to tone-police someone for »free palestine«, wtf?! please read el-kurd's essay i posted earlier in the thread.
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/09/jewish-settlers-stole-my-house-its-not-my-fault-theyre-jewish/

Jewish settlers stole my house. It’s not my fault they’re Jewish.

Palestinians are told the words we use dwarf the decades of violence enacted against us by the self-proclaimed Jewish State. A drone is one thing, but a trope—a trope is unacceptable. No more.

Mondoweiss
Tomorrow morning is gonna be interesting in #ukpolitics #UK #LabourUK

Remember, this is a so-called left wing government demanding this and yet despite clear bias towards the Israeli military regime, nobody lifts a eyelid over their 70000 dead men, women, and children.

I've zero sympathy for the heads of the #BBC but it's worrying times when a party who's supposed to be left wing does everything to be far right.
#NeverStopTalkingAboutPalestine #IsraelWarCrimes #labouruk #Trump #January6

http://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1109/1543008-bbc-director-resigns/

@LordWoolamaloo @Wen Labour trying to out-Reform Reform which is fools game as Farage will just move further right

#ukpol #politics #uk #labour #labouruk #uklabour

Plaid Cymru beats Labour in historic Caerphilly by-election win

https://www.channel4.com/news/plaid-cymru-beats-labour-in-historic-caerphilly-by-election-win

> For Keir #Starmer it also poses difficult questions – can you be the “Stop Farage” party, when voters who want to stop Nigel Farage don’t like you very much?
#GB #LabourUK

Plaid Cymru beats Labour in historic Caerphilly by-election win

It was almost certainly the last ever by-election in Wales for the Senedd.

Channel 4 News

in April 2017, Her Majesty's Opposition, the UK Labour Party, was polling around 26% under Jeremy #Corbyn, down from 31% when he took over party leadership in Feb 2016.

Corbyn's socialist policy platform was despised by the corporate class as representing a direct threat to their plutocratic stranglehold on power. So the UK press have a spent year alternating between ignoring and attacking Corbyn. Yet over that period #LabourUK membership ballooned, rising from around 200,000 to over 500,000, making it the largest political party in western Europe, as an increasing number of regular voters discovered via social media that Corbyn was in fact not owned by corporate lobbyists.

So by April 2017, much of the media are waging a relentless campaign to oust Corbyn as leader, interrupting his attempts to address policy matters with variations on "when will you step down?".

Now, fast-forward to today. Under Keir #Starmer, UK Labour are polling at an average of merely 20%, with one poll this week putting them on 15% and even behind the #Greens for the first time ever. In Thursday's #Caerphilly by-election for #Senedd (Welsh Parliament) in a seat Labour has held for a century and which it most recently won on 45%, Labour managed only 11%.

Where are the media calls for Starmer's resignation?

So the pubs people cant afford to go to are going to stay open later to boost the economy? Makes sense. #Pub #CAMRA #UKPOL #LabourUK

Sally Rooney: Normal People author says she cannot enter UK in case of arrest

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3w54g14gp9o

> The author has given her support to Palestine Action, who have been proscribed as a terrorist group.

#GB #LabourUK

Sally Rooney: Normal People author says she cannot enter UK in case of arrest - BBC News

The author has given her support to Palestine Action, who have been proscribed as a terrorist group.

BBC News

Au Royaume-Uni, le gouvernement Starmer déstabilisé par le limogeage de l’ambassadeur britannique aux Etats-Unis, ancien « meilleur ami » de Jeffrey Epstein

https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/09/12/au-royaume-uni-le-gouvernement-starmer-destabilise-par-le-limogeage-de-l-ambassadeur-britannique-aux-etats-unis-ancien-meilleur-ami-de-jeffrey-epstein_6640487_3210.html

> Peter Mandelson avait continué à correspondre avec le délinquant sexuel après sa condamnation, a révélé un tabloïd anglais, précipitant la chute du « Prince des ténèbres » de la politique anglaise.

#LabourUK #GB

Au Royaume-Uni, le gouvernement Starmer déstabilisé par le limogeage de l’ambassadeur britannique aux Etats-Unis, ancien « meilleur ami » de Jeffrey Epstein

Peter Mandelson avait continué à correspondre avec le délinquant sexuel après sa condamnation, a révélé un tabloïd anglais, précipitant la chute du « Prince des ténèbres » de la politique anglaise.

Le Monde

#UKPol #LabourUK

"... and MPs are claiming to have been tricked by [Yvette] Cooper.”

LOL
Gormless politicians going cheap, sixpence a dozen, get yer gormless politicians here, guaranteed completely gormless, only the best gormless politicians here, thrupence each, sixpence a dozen, stew em, bake em, fry em, freeze em, whip em, dice em, puree em, always a delight, gormless politicians in a blanket, on toast, gormless politicians going cheap, sixpence a dozen, thrupence
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/22/palestine-action-ban-protesters-defend-our-juries-plan-street-bail-police

Protesters against ban on Palestine Action intend to make mass arrests ‘impossible’

Defend Our Juries says ‘trick of using street bail’ will not work if participants insist on being taken to a police station

The Guardian