In 166 days #Android will become a locked-down platform because Google wants to kill Android freedom.

At Tuta, we say NO. Google must keep Android open & free!

Here's how to take action & make your voice heard: 👉 https://keepandroidopen.org/

Here's more info: 👉 https://tuta.com/blog/google-wants-to-kill-android-freedom

#KeepAndroidOpen

Hi @Tutanota,
btw.: anybody remember the #reader https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Reader rugpull? Killed the #blogosphere and gave rise to #platform​s
Google Reader - Wikipedia

@Tutanota I just want non-Google Linux phones to become mainstream. Since android is based on Linux anyway, most apps should work or be easy to port?

I would love to be able to root my phone, but some of us just suck at these things and it's not worth the risk of bricking our devices. I wish we could have off the shelf Linux phones that don't require advanced tech skills to use or set up.

#LinuxPhone

@SilverArrows @Tutanota

Android works on Linux, but android apps are apks in kind of binary code like java - these are executed by dalvikvm. But since Android is open source, it's not necessary
to circumvent that, as for example wine does with windows applications.

But what google does is providing google play services where app vendors rely on to ensure that the system is not tinkered with (rooted - everyone is skeptic when you own your system). banking apps do so.

@SilverArrows @Tutanota i think that problem is not solved. And I think the media mafia (netflix, spotify) may do this, too - but not sure

@circus_maximus

Yes, banking apps can be tricky, mine won't even let me log in unless I switch out my keyboard to a big name one.

That's why noob-friendly Linux phones being mainstream would be much better.

I'd love to ditch windows and android, but Linux is not noob-friendly, no, not even Mint. When you have to learn how to compile code just to install a driver for a WiFi adapter, then you're locking out the average joe. Windows and android suck, but they work out of the box, and I feel like Linux still has a degree of gatekeeping going on.

@SilverArrows #Linux depends on hardware, when you have to compile by yourself you may have the wrong hardware. But from my point of view I also think that hardware support stagnates: camera on newer #surface_pro devices do also suck like what you described.

Having hardware vendors providing proper drivers should be the key to both platforms, mobile and computers.

Hopefully that's the #grapheneos deal with #Motorola, also provide a hardware basis usable for #postmarketos

@circus_maximus I have no clue. I have a TP link WiFi adaptor, it says Linux compatible on the box. There's a CD to install it on Windows and Mac, but for Linux, there's no instructions and when I looked up the manual, it said I had to compile the code myself.

This is what I mean. Linux is never going to be mainstream when you have to invest so much more time and effort just to get the basics to work. It's sheer stubbornness and dislike of big corpos that's stopped me just nuking Mint off my PC and using its dedicated SSD as another drive for the Windows install. And that's a real shame. I was really looking forward to fulfilling my 20 year dream of becoming a Linux girl.

@SilverArrows @circus_maximus Well, according to what you said, the problem is with TP Link, not Linux as an OS, instead of compiling the code themselves and upstreaming it, they chose to let it stay non-compiled.

Most consumer hardware that is commonly used in the world already has drivers in the Linux kernel out of the box, so no install or even compiling needed.

@joe9nf Yes I agree. But it's obstacles like this that create a barrier between the average person and Linux.
@circus_maximus @SilverArrows Why GNU/Linux mobile when it is less secure, private and fast than Android.
@SilverArrows @Tutanota Let's hope European phone manufactures will solve this so it can be done safely and with a locked bootloader.
@Tutanota after the post of scanning of emails by large corps. I compared the email services and finally made #proton-mail account.
@Tutanota Is this global, or does it only affect certain countries?
@VerenaRupp @Tutanota after 2026 globally or maybe after 2026 September
@Tutanota sign the petition 😁
@Tutanota just gave Google this comment:
"Many of the apps I use on a daily, nay HOURLY basis come from F-droid and elsewhere. That is why I have always bought an Android phone, so I could do that. If I can't do that in the future, there's no reason not to buy an Apple product. Ask Samsung how they feel about that, why don't you?"

@Tutanota wait a second... Android had freedom?

I thought Android was always corporate owned. which is the opposite of freedom.

It's relative free since you can install any app from any source before.
And now Google wanna make it iOS.

@Tutanota Google doesn't have to keep Android Open, there's nothing stopping them from taking a massive dump on AOSP.

I hope Google locks down Android so people will be funnelled into actually open mobile OSes

@budududuroiu @Tutanota Yeah, if only there actually were some open ones that you could use for everyday things like paying bills, confirming purchases and general banking errands... I don't think you realise the chokehold Apple and Google has on all of this around the world.
@seq @Tutanota yeah I agree, but Android currently offers just enough "openness" to not justify investing time in truly free/open alternatives
@budududuroiu, the thing is, other OS are not yet safe for all phones either. e/OS/ for example is not compatible with most new phones, and even phones from 2020 are not officially compatible (there's a version which has not been said 100% safe by the developers)
@Tutanota
Yeah we need a third competitor so badly.
@Tutanota If app developers can create a safe ecosystem that ensures safety for uploaded apps, Google should not have the right to demand this on behalf of the whole world. Instead they can offer to help, but not force developers into submission.

@Tutanota

straight to a change.org petition
https://c.org/yznMQjcTZc

#google #Android

Can you spare a minute to help this campaign?

Stop Google from limiting APK file usage

Change.org

@Tutanota I think its time for European tech and software to take over . Y'all got vollaOs, ShiftOS, AphyOs , SailfishOs, /e/Os, plasma, IodeOs and Ubuntu Touch.

That's not even all of it there is Tuta, Proton,
NymVpn .
The world can be good again