TedelMar 17
schratze

Things everybody needs to hear more often:

- you are loved
- your feelings are valid
- you deserve rest
- you don't need to be available at all times
- that's not a raven, that's a crow
- it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

Mar 17 at 10:12amWeb
Show threadRiMar 17
@schratze in my world it's usually a jackdaw being mistaken for a crow
Show threadschratzeMar 17
@skippingmoonrocks I've had people mistake jackdaws for ravens before. You're goos
Show threadschratzeMar 17
@skippingmoonrocks *you're good. I didn't mean to say "you're goose"
Show threadRiMar 17

@schratze yeah, it's all goat.

I have one friend who mistakes jackdaws for rooks all the time.

Show threadjackdaw delilaMar 17
@skippingmoonrocks @schratze did someone mention jackdaws?
Show threadschratzeMar 17
@delila @skippingmoonrocks hi
Show threadRiMar 17
@schratze @delila caw!
Show threadjackdaw delilaMar 17
@skippingmoonrocks @schratze caw caw!
Show threadRiMar 17

@delila @schratze yes! and in an unrelated chat i wanted to show someone a jackdaw flock and dug into my pictures until i found this:

Jackdaws are great!

Show threadRenalia - #1 pizza downloaderMar 17
@skippingmoonrocks @delila @schratze corvid appreciation thread time! :D
Show threadMike TorrMar 17
@skippingmoonrocks @schratze Yeah I made that mistake a lot when I first moved here (Aberdeenshire) — once I heard their voices I soon figured it out :)
Show threadGreenSkyOverMe (Monika)Mar 17
@schratze <3
Show threadRenalia - #1 pizza downloaderMar 17
@schratze i generally assume all big, all-black colouration birds are crows until evidence indicates otherwise. If I see one that's impossibly big, THEN I'll possibly think "that MIGHT be a Raven", but even then I'll be checking
Show threadBennetMar 17
@schratze here in Tasmania, it's always a raven (or sometimes a currawong, but those have some white on the tail). There are no crows here, the only corvid species is the forest raven.
Show threadschratzeMar 17

@DrMcStrange Wikipedia also lists the Little Raven, but that seems to be more of a random visitor?

I feel like I need to point out that there's no clear distinction between crows and ravens. They're both birds in the Corvus genus, but there are several species called crow and several called raven without clear criteria for which species gets which common name.

Show threadBennetMar 17

@schratze there are Little Ravens on King Island, which is part of the state of Tasmania, so it could be that. Maybe we get stragglers too, I don't know.

Yeah, mostly ravens are just the bigger species, but even that isn't consistent. For the Australian species it seems to be more about whether they have hackles (ravens) or not (crows).

Show threadPhil BettsMar 17
@schratze not if you're in Perth, Melbourne or Sydney! https://birdlife.org.au/news/what-bird-is-that-ravens-and-crows/
What Bird is That? Ravens and Crows - BirdLife Australia

In the leadup to this year’s Aussie Bird Count, Sean Dooley is talking us through how to tell the difference between commonly confused backyard birds. In this video, we’re learning all about Crows and Ravens – and the easiest ways to tell Australia’s 5 species apart according to their location and calls.

BirdLife Australia
Show threadTod dem FaschismusMar 17
@schratze
»you are loved« must sound bitter to people who aren't
Show threadcaskfanMar 17
@schratze ravens >= crows and rooks >= jackdaws mostly I think. Rooks have a whitish beak, crows have black. Not a bird expert. I often see a pair of crows on my walk and have been trying to get them to come closer for food.
Show threadzenkatMar 17

@schratze The ones in top of Twin Peaks are ravens. Definitely ravens.

The rest of your post checks out, tho. 😸

Show threadNullNoMoreMar 17
@schratze - yes, I like this! a crow is a cool bird, yes!
Show threadEngelbert SchnauziMar 17
@schratze
@sparks

"There is no consistent distinction between crows and ravens"

ONE IS PART OF THE OTHER

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow

Corvus is latin for raven and means all birds of the genus corvus. Crow is a synonym for corvus. And raven is generally used for big crows.

Stop pretending they're even a thing! It's all the same!
Corvus - Wikipedia

Show threadschratzeMar 17
@flaubau you're typically referring to the species that's most common in your area. When someone in central Europe asks how to tell apart crows and ravens, then they're probably asking about the common raven and the carrion crow. Same thing in north America, but with the American crow.
Show threadEngelbert SchnauziMar 18
@schratze

interesting take, thank you ^^ what about people who travel a lot? 😅

i've seen so many corvids i feel like they're just each other's aunts and uncles
Show threadInga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸6d ago

@schratze @flaubau fun fact is that in Russia, the word for "crow" and "raven" is the same, the only difference is grammatical gender (female for crow, male for raven).

Another fun fact is that the crow in the movie "Crow" (including the movie title) was translated with male grammatical gender (i.e. as "raven").

Show threadschratze6d ago

@IngaLovinde @flaubau ah, the two genders.

What gender do rooks get? And jackdaws?

Show threadInga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸6d ago
@schratze @flaubau rook is male but it's a completely separate word without any dark associations or connotations. The word is similar to e.g. thrush or woodpecker (both are male too) in shape.
Jackdaw is female but, again, completely separate word, just a regular bird name. The word is similar to e.g. jay (which is also female) in shape.
Show threadschratze6d ago
@IngaLovinde @flaubau oh fun. I remember learning some Slavic languages use the same word for rooks and ravens, and some use the diminutive of the word for crow for jackdaws.
Show threadInga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸6d ago
@schratze @flaubau except if you refer to rook in chess, then it's yet another word (meaning longboat) and is female.
Show threadschratze6d ago

@IngaLovinde @flaubau oh, interesting. It's a Turm (tower) in German.

The English words for the bird and the chess piece have no connection. The bird's name is derived from onomatopoeia for its call. the chess piece name has a Middle Persian root which may or may not be related to a Sanskrit word for chariot

Show threadInga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸6d ago
@schratze @flaubau apparently russian word for rook (bird) is also derived from onomatopoeia for its call
Show threadschratze6d ago
@IngaLovinde @flaubau the majority of bird names are
Show threadInga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸6d ago
@schratze @flaubau I don't think majority of names of common popular birds are? Not even in English probably; and in Russian the only other name I can think of is cuckoo. And I have just checked etymology of like 15 birds I could remember and the only one tracked to onomatopoeia is goose (although a couple more come from general words on sounds topic). Names derived from e.g. colors seem to be more popular.
Show threadschratze6d ago
@IngaLovinde yeah, slight exaggeration probably. It's always either the noise they make, the color they are, or their most prominent behavior
Show threadInga stands with 🇺🇦 🇵🇸5d ago
@schratze but the same can be said about anything basically. Animals, plants, etc
Show threadRaven (she/her)    3d ago

@flaubau @schratze @sparks

this still confuses me (and my name is Raven lmao)

i thought they were different, but this is saying they are categorizations of specific species?

Show threadschratze3d ago
@sparklepanic @flaubau @sparks there are several species named something raven and several species named something crow. They're all in the Corvus genus though.
Show threadHead·word /ˈhedˌwɜː(ɹ)d/ n.Mar 17

@schratze

Ravens can be identified by their quothing ‘Nevermore’

Show threadFrantic 🇬🇧 + 🇪🇺Mar 17

@schratze "you are loved" were the last words I said to my mum that I know she heard from me before she died.

#LastWords

Show threadschratzeMar 17
@frantictdrinker sorry to hear that.
Show threadFrantic 🇬🇧 + 🇪🇺Mar 17
@schratze thank you. It was the right thing to say at the time and probably gave comfort as she died. It was nearly 18 years ago and I came to terms with it within a few weeks.
Show threadJudith SchwerdtMar 17
@schratze so beautifully expressed
Show threadWurzelmann6d ago

@schratze my sister told me about the "baby ravens" in her backyard and she was really excited about them. I was sceptical, suspected crows.

She sent a picture and they were blackbirds. Yeah...

Show threadschratze6d ago
@wurzelmann 😂😂😂😭😭😭
Show threadDie Tooteuse6d ago
@schratze I once heard that if you are not sure whether it's a crow or a raven - it's a crow. When you see a raven, you definitely know it's a raven.
Show threadNature Punk6d ago

@schratze If there are loads of them it's not a raven but if you think "That crow looks a lot closer than it is?" and they are on their own or in a pair it maybe a raven.

I'm with @tooteuse on this one. Raven's are massive and should be sitting on a gods shoulder whispering in his ear and not flying around :)

Show threadPaul McGuire6d ago
@schratze "You is kind, you is smart, you is important" - daily affirmation to a child, from "The Help" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H50llsHm3k
"You Is Smart, You Is Kind, You Is Important"

YouTube
Show threadeviloatmeal, resident Death Stranding 2 apologist (arch, btw)6d ago
@schratze That one's just a very dirty seagull.
Show threadE. C. Bigribs6d ago

@schratze A few easy rules for distinguishing crows from ravens in the Pacific Northwest:

- Pointed wingtips and wedge-shaped tail, it's usually a raven.
- Fingered wingtips and wide tail, it's usually a crow.
- Aerodynamic head and beak, probably a crow.
- Thick beak, odd-shaped head, probably a raven.
- If it sounds like a crow, it's a crow.
- If it sounds like a human going AWK in a falsetto voice, it's a raven.
- If it's using a crosswalk and looking at cars like "You're supposed to stop for me" it's 100% a crow.
- If it's looking at you like you're the middle part of a sandwich it's making, it's 100% a raven.
- If there are more than four of them and there are no visible dead things, they're crows.
- If there are more than four of them, and there are no visible dead things, but you're pretty sure they're ravens, GET OUT NOW.

Show threadMatilda Love6d ago

@schratze

if you're asking "is that a raven or a crow", it's a crow

if you're going "holy shit that bird is fucking huge", it's a raven

Show threadJenny!6d ago
@matildalove @schratze I'm honestly still not quite sure (boarnana for scale)
Show threaddet (θΔ)5d ago
@matildalove @schratze this is true
Show threadPetterOfCats6d ago
@schratze we have a common saying out here: “if you see a blackbird, it’s a blackbird. If you see a large blackbird, it’s a crow. If you see a goth eagle, it’s a raven.”
Show threadNikkileah 🎮🚄🏳️‍⚧️🇬🇧6d ago
@schratze crows are cool. Wanna make friends with crows
Show threadshimst3r6d ago

@schratze

- Bielefeld exists

(Some people need to hear this more often)