If the computer is a prosthetic (and it is) then this means we legitimately have to be careful about what software we run, because we are deciding what to make part of our selves, part of our minds
@mcc My family (including me) is Apple-pilled, and it upsets me how much we shape our thinking around the limitations of these devices. I notice some of it, but almost certainly not all of it.
@mcc yeah, bodily autonomy should extend to our personal devices. we should have full control of all of our devices, with no "but"s. access to full source code with a free software license, able to install whatever we want and do whatever we want with it
@mcc I've never heard anyone labeling a computer a prosthetic that is incredible.

@mcc

Delegating your creativity to a machine is an amputation.

@mcc this is true about all tools, physical and mental, but that's kind of an advanced version of the same conversation

i fully agree tho

@whitequark @mcc Idr who I first heard this from, but: Keeping a digital notebook is a mild form of transhumanism.
@cr1901
Curious idea. Certainly there are many external tools to aid the human
@whitequark @mcc
@whitequark @mcc when a person picks up a hammer their body image changes to include the hammer. if it didn't they would fall over

@bob @whitequark @mcc there was an interesting paper about this relatively recently

Are tools truly incorporated as an extension of the body representation?: Assessing the evidence for tool embodiment

https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-021-02032-6

Are tools truly incorporated as an extension of the body representation?: Assessing the evidence for tool embodiment - Psychonomic Bulletin & Review

The predominant view on human tool-use suggests that an action-oriented body representation, the body schema, is altered to fit the tool being wielded, a phenomenon termed tool embodiment. While observations of perceptual change after tool-use purport to support this hypothesis, several issues undermine their validity in this context, discussed at length in this critical review. The primary measures used as indicators of tool embodiment each face unique challenges to their construct validity. Further, the perceptual changes taken as indicating extension of the body representation only appear to account for a fraction of the tool’s size in any given experiment, and do not demonstrate the covariance with tool length that the embodiment hypothesis would predict. The expression of tool embodiment also appears limited to a narrow range of tool-use tasks, as deviations from a simple reaching paradigm can mollify or eliminate embodiment effects altogether. The shortcomings identified here generate important avenues for future research. Until the source of the kinematic and perceptual effects that have substantiated tool embodiment is disambiguated, the hypothesis that the body representation changes to fit tools during tool-use should not be favored over other possibilities such as the formation of separable internal tool models, which seem to offer a more complete account of human tool-use behaviors. Indeed, studies of motor learning have observed analogous perceptual changes as aftereffects to adaptation despite the absence of handheld tool-use, offering a compelling alternative explanation, though more work is needed to confirm this possibility.

SpringerLink

@bob @whitequark @mcc UNDERSTATED REPLY EMPOWERING this WHOLE THREAD

WOW. Get Equipped With METAL HAMMER Fediverse Thread!!

@bob @whitequark @mcc this makes perfect sense but, seeing it out of context, I assumed this was one of those game development things like “when the player is on a horse the horse is actually a pair of pants they’re wearing”
@bob @whitequark @mcc
I've so often explained "body image" to people but your definition is the best, I'll steal it.

@whitequark @mcc This is true of any tool, yup. We make tools and tools make us. That’s entire Marshall McLuhan’s premise, the idea that we have social amputations, collective grieving over new forms of media.

It’s like those articles that claim “new technology rewires the brain”. What *doesn’t* rewire the brain? Everything does.

@mcc if a computer is "the bicycle of the mind", then a bicycle is "the bicycle of the crotch".
@mcc I feel this when driving. I read about this before on the Cyborg Manifesto
@mcc filling up my daily driver android phone with pirated media because i'm a trash man.
@mcc Absolutely we do.

@mcc

Such a great observation

@mcc As we all learned in Ghost In The Shell...
@jandi @mcc "Don't install five different versions of the driver for your arm."
@wakame @mcc Exactly 😄 Also "if you leave the army/police/company we'll strip you of body parts and software upgrades".
@mcc This is why I avoid commercial software that isn't explicitly trying to be art (like games).
And even games... god, those can wreck you more than anything.

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@mcc
The way I look at it, the preservation of the individual humanity is the main object when it comes to dealing with corporate technology. My approach is to NOT deal with new commercially produced technologies wherever I have a choice. This means that I am not stimulating it. On the other hand, in order to not fall behind functionally, I try to interact at the trailing edge of new technology, and use second-hand or and surplus hardware. The local university surplus sells functional computers for about $10. I purchased 20 500GB hard drives for $2 each. I use only open source software. So, yes, these technologies are incorporated into my lifestyle. But I try my very best not to feed the beast.
@johntinker @mcc
I, for one, like the way YOU do technology, Mr Tinker.
I've always avoided the "latest and greatest" to keep prices down, but sourcing equipment from unis is a brilliant strategy that sounds like good news to me.
@Guillotine_Jones @mcc
I just ordered an external drive bay, new, for $20. It will allow me to plug in some 500GB drives that I got used for $2 each. I will use this to back up our local community radio station's drives. The radio station itself is running on several $10 computers (quad cores w/ 8GB RAM) from a local university surplus outlet.
@mcc Not me choosing to use this prosthetic almost everyday into getting bullied in multiple languages in dota 2 😂
Hi @mcc,
💯
and it's about #balance of power - how much a lever have the suppliers of all those gadgets over you and how much do you about them?

@mcc
Cars are informative in this discussion.
They bring a new way of thinking.
It's not just the data processing.

My old friend Pat asked about cyborging and social/psychological reactions, and I told him that he needed to look no further than the temporary cyborg of car+driver.

I got quite a lot of pushback :D - though not from him.