If the computer is a prosthetic (and it is) then this means we legitimately have to be careful about what software we run, because we are deciding what to make part of our selves, part of our minds

@mcc this is true about all tools, physical and mental, but that's kind of an advanced version of the same conversation

i fully agree tho

@whitequark @mcc Idr who I first heard this from, but: Keeping a digital notebook is a mild form of transhumanism.
@cr1901
Curious idea. Certainly there are many external tools to aid the human
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@cr1901 @whitequark @mcc keeping a paper notebook too
@chrisamaphone @whitequark @mcc I keep most of my paper notebooks and loose scraps. Been meaning to shred the stuff that I know for sure I won't miss. But never seen to get around to it.
@cr1901 @mcc @whitequark in my experience, they come in handy for processing midlife crises
@whitequark @mcc when a person picks up a hammer their body image changes to include the hammer. if it didn't they would fall over

@bob @whitequark @mcc there was an interesting paper about this relatively recently

Are tools truly incorporated as an extension of the body representation?: Assessing the evidence for tool embodiment

https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13423-021-02032-6

Are tools truly incorporated as an extension of the body representation?: Assessing the evidence for tool embodiment - Psychonomic Bulletin & Review

The predominant view on human tool-use suggests that an action-oriented body representation, the body schema, is altered to fit the tool being wielded, a phenomenon termed tool embodiment. While observations of perceptual change after tool-use purport to support this hypothesis, several issues undermine their validity in this context, discussed at length in this critical review. The primary measures used as indicators of tool embodiment each face unique challenges to their construct validity. Further, the perceptual changes taken as indicating extension of the body representation only appear to account for a fraction of the tool’s size in any given experiment, and do not demonstrate the covariance with tool length that the embodiment hypothesis would predict. The expression of tool embodiment also appears limited to a narrow range of tool-use tasks, as deviations from a simple reaching paradigm can mollify or eliminate embodiment effects altogether. The shortcomings identified here generate important avenues for future research. Until the source of the kinematic and perceptual effects that have substantiated tool embodiment is disambiguated, the hypothesis that the body representation changes to fit tools during tool-use should not be favored over other possibilities such as the formation of separable internal tool models, which seem to offer a more complete account of human tool-use behaviors. Indeed, studies of motor learning have observed analogous perceptual changes as aftereffects to adaptation despite the absence of handheld tool-use, offering a compelling alternative explanation, though more work is needed to confirm this possibility.

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@bob @whitequark @mcc UNDERSTATED REPLY EMPOWERING this WHOLE THREAD

WOW. Get Equipped With METAL HAMMER Fediverse Thread!!

@bob @whitequark @mcc this makes perfect sense but, seeing it out of context, I assumed this was one of those game development things like “when the player is on a horse the horse is actually a pair of pants they’re wearing”
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I've so often explained "body image" to people but your definition is the best, I'll steal it.

@whitequark @mcc This is true of any tool, yup. We make tools and tools make us. That’s entire Marshall McLuhan’s premise, the idea that we have social amputations, collective grieving over new forms of media.

It’s like those articles that claim “new technology rewires the brain”. What *doesn’t* rewire the brain? Everything does.