Since I became vegan (1 year and 7 months ago) I haven't eaten out much.

I did bring home food from a place now and while it was tasty I can't help to think that there can't have been much protein in the meal.

Also, all TV shows I see when they make vegan food it seems to be missing the needed amount of protein.

I've seen a YouTube video with professor Christopher Gardner from Stanford University, and while it's true that 98% of people does not need more than 0.8g potein/kg body mass, one have to take into the calculation that A - the body can't absorb all protein from a plant based source, and B - even if you mix for example beans with rice you can't get a perfectly complete protein profile (compared animal based protein).

So even if you have 40g of plant based protein in front of you in a mix of say beans and rice, your body might only get 32g complete protein.

So instead of calcualate 0,8g/kg body mass you should aim for 1.1-1.3g/kg.

Yes, I am a overthinker and I tend to obsess about stuff.

Any long time vegans out there that have some insights of this?

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@spacebug agree, most restaurants that provide a vegan option don't seem to think too much about providing enough protein, it's often carbs and veggies, sometimes too much fat.

Gardeners point as I understand him is mostly to say that if you eat too much protein 1) it will be metabolised to fat and thus not help losing weight if that's your goal and 2) it can harm your kidneys because of the nitrogen excess.

The optimal amount of protein for you will depend on your lifestyle and age. 1/n

@spacebug If you didn't feel satisfied after you meals they might have contained not enough protein.

I think your calculation is on point, 0.8-1g/kg body weight - that counts for your ideal body weight though.

Very active people who lift weights and wanna gain muscle are more in the 1g/kg mark to repair muscle during rest days. Also, older people can't absorb protein as well and have a higher need.

The WFPB community has good resources and information on that, e.g. nutritionfacts.org 2/2

@SusannAuer Thank you 😊

@spacebug you're welcome. As a researcher who also reads the papers that are cited by people on YouTube 😅 I have to disagree a bit with the "just do what you think is best".

The current status quo in science is that it's best to have a good amount of protein with every meal. Not too much obviously, but let's say you eat three main meals a day and weigh 80 kg, you should aim for 25-30 g protein with each of these meals. It's best to spread out protein consumption over the day.

@SusannAuer
I'm currently fat so I can't really estiamte how much I need, but I tend to eat quite much protein right now.
Breakfast: soygurt with nuts/seeds (16g)
Lunch: different meals (30g)
Between meals: protein powder (26g)
Dinner: different meals (30g)
Evening meal: oat meal with soy drink (15g)

@spacebug ok, there's a very rough estimate that your height in cm minus 100 is your ideal weight.

BMI is not the best measure but it's another estimate to see where your are and where the range is that would be good for you.

If you know your more ideal weight, start calculating your protein needs for that weight. That will tell you if your are overboard. I am not a dietician, it's just the info I pieced together over years of reading about the topic in the plant based science community.

@SusannAuer Ah. Again thank you soo much. I'm learning a lot.