🍹Early to RISA 🧉Anon introduces himself
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IlovethebombI absolutely hate those “let’s go around the circle and introduce ourselves” exercises. Making children do them seems especially cruel.
Introducing yourself to others is like the basis of all socialization. 🤔
Introducing yourself to others is normal. Speaking infront of a group is not. Both can bring out social anxiety but public speaking is different than socializing with a small group.
FizzSpeaking a few sentences in front a classroom sized group is pretty normal and kids should be exposed to it. Uncomfortable experiences are a part of growing up.
AzzuOf course. But as the first thing overall with no prior training about it at all? No coaching about examples on what to say, no advice about your choices before the real thing?
its a few sentences about yourself you dont need coaching. People should have done this countless times before getting to Anon’s age. If he still needs coaching at his age he probably has a learning disorder and I dont mean that in a rude way.
What training should they need?
I’d say learning to talk is all they really need. The rest is experience.
So as soon as you learn to talk, you can handle every social situation adequately? That’s news to me.
You may not understand this particular issue, because you never had trouble introducing yourself publicly. But you probably struggled at something else, and don’t you think training would (or did) help you there?
So as soon as you learn to talk, you can handle every social situation adequately? That’s news to me.
No, they didn’t say that, they said that knowing how to talk is the only prerequisite. The rest comes only with practice, the sooner the better. Anxiety’s a bitch, I get it, but you make it manageable by desensitizing yourself to those situations (preferably starting with the low risk ones like introductions), not avoiding them.
UnderpantsWeevilBoth can bring out social anxiety
Generally speaking, socialization is like a muscle. You have to use it to build it.
“Nobody should ever have to interact with more than a handful of other people at a time” is a recipe for building a population of socially anxious people.
Yes, but some people, myself included, find forcibly requiring individuals to introduce themselves in succession to be disingenuous.
other_catI have had to participate in a “Everyone introduce themselves” like five times at a job I’ve worked at less than a year. I don’t enjoy it, and I don’t think anyone does, but it’s also important to know who the people you are working with are. Would I ever do it if I didn’t have to? No way. But I do. And practice has made it easier at least.
Yes, and a lot of shit you have to do socially in life is going to be disingenuous. I hated it, I still hate it, but I’ve also seen it used well as a way to at least ensure everyone has spoken before a discussion group. It’s an icebreaker, it’s not supposed to be deep talk, it’s supposed to mean there’s a chance that everyone has at least heard each other’s name once before
Yeah, but there’s something about forcing people to do it that just removes the fun from it all.
oce 🐆Don’t you think it’s good to train children to be able to talk to strangers and introduce themselves? I know it’s stressful but I think it is useful.
That’s just not how people introduce themselves out in the real world though.
I guess the teachers will just have to make educated guesses based on which students they presume will end up strung out, and then have only those kids practice the introductions.
(But, for real, I’ve encountered this shit in numerous workplaces)
Yeah, and the people who do it in social situations are usually corporate drones.
What do you think is different compared to when you join some new company, training or club and you are asked to present yourself?
MinnesotaGoddamThat happens a lot less than you think. And I try to avoid clubs etc that do that nonsense.
idunnololzDepends on the job but this happens all the time for me because I often have to sit in meetings with customers (b2b company) and so usually we have to introduce ourselves at the start of the meeting.
Maybe I just have a good job.
work is the real world and i have some news
The problem is the lack of structure.
I organize a lot of workshops involving people from experts to executives, where always need an introduction round, and I always give them a structure to follow. Makes the task it easier, but it’ll also be much more useful for the group, as we’ll focus in the aspects of a person that matter for the context of the workshop.
For a class intro in primary school, it could be:
- name and age
- nickname you’d like others to call you
- favorite subject
- favorite hobby / free time activity
I just made this up, but a teacher could probably come up with something even more fitting.
The point is, always give people structure or guidance, you’ll get much more out of similar introduction rounds.
Sure but in the real world you will sometimes get this and sometimes get no structure. It’s been about 50/50 for me so far. Being able to do either on the fly is good.
It’d just be a lot less horrible if you don’t have to come up with something to say about yourself. Kids are RUTHLESS and if you’re not quick on your feet, or even if you are, but the thing you say can be taken wrong, you will be bullied for the rest of your time in school over it. Unless you luck out and someone else’s thing is even worse.
It’s not training though, you get thrown into the real thing immediately that decides the rest of your social time at school.
If you were encouraged and made to practice in private before, then I would agree with you.
Is it cruel?
I don’t agree, I think if you force a crying child to say their name — that’s obviously going too far. But it is important to get kids used to socializing, human beings need other human beings ultimately.
I think if you force a crying child to say their name — that’s obviously going too far.
i’m sorry you experienced that. if it’s any consolation, the only times anyone gets forced to do anything at my wife’s program is for safety reasons. like, get out of the burning building! don’t elope from the classroom to the street with busy traffic or the shooting range just o’er yonder! life and death stuff. i want to say teachers have learned better, but i also want to say teachers have seen just that specific bullshit and been appalled by it. y’know, because they’re human like you and most of me have empathy.
i do too. I have 3 believable truths 3 unbelievable truths, 3 believable lies, 3 unbelievable lies, 7 “interesting facts” about me (i used to have 8 but one of them, uh it required me to tell a joke and that does not work at 8 AM so now it’s gone. I don’t function 8 AM well before.) and i can pick and choose between my pre-prepped bullshit based on my audience and how awake and healthy i feel.
worst part is i used to do improv so for the longest time i would just wing it and did fine. then they started doing them before coffee. now i gotta copy my bullshit offa my phone onto cue cards if i have one of those things
x00zI remember this meme. My friend really like this show back in the late 00’s. I don’t know anything about it other than this song, which I am not very fond of
Would have been pretty funny (to those in the know) if he managed to do it with confidence. Shame.
Also damn, this Greentext is 10 years old. Doing this nowadays in highschool would definitely net you a room full of blank stares even if you don’t botch the delivery.
Fun fact: this practice hasn’t changed in the hundreds (thousands?) of years we’ve been asking kids to introduce themselves to a group
Yeah, but this is a specific quote from an anime. The practice still exists I’m sure, but would anyone get the reference?
sleet01There are 20-somethings answering pop music trivia from the 70s and 80s with the utter confidence that indicates intimate personal knowledge.
I don’t know how or why, but some of the kids are getting exposed to the classics.
The easy answer for music is these kid’s parents are putting those tunes on their home speakers. While I would agree Haruhi is some form of “classic”, I do wonder what parent is showing it to their kid…
Probably not. But it’s close enough to the mark for Dan Da Dan for someone to clock it as a line. And “goofy shit kids say for attention” coded enough that you’d still probably get a laugh.
Upvote for the Haruhi reference cringe or not.
Brave Little Hitachi WandIt’s no better or worse than going with the usual Egon quote about collecting fungus, molds, and spores. That’s how nerds find each other, one of them fires off a signal flare, revealing their location and putting themselves in danger, and other misfits sit next to them at lunch so they can all get hazed together.
What the hell are you even talking about?
How people find each other in school. Normal people probably just have to read magazines or act like each other to fit in. If you’re a misfit you’re never going to find other misfits with that playbook.
I don’t know about you, but my school had clubs that let me meet other people with similar interests. Ironically, that’s literally what the anime this is referencing is about.
I am happy for you. My experiences differed. I was the only kid at my school who knew you could spend recess in the library, and the clubs were all sports until much later.