š¹Early to RISA š§Anon introduces himself
IlovethebombI absolutely hate those āletās go around the circle and introduce ourselvesā exercises. Making children do them seems especially cruel.
Introducing yourself to others is like the basis of all socialization. š¤
Introducing yourself to others is normal. Speaking infront of a group is not. Both can bring out social anxiety but public speaking is different than socializing with a small group.
FizzSpeaking a few sentences in front a classroom sized group is pretty normal and kids should be exposed to it. Uncomfortable experiences are a part of growing up.
AzzuOf course. But as the first thing overall with no prior training about it at all? No coaching about examples on what to say, no advice about your choices before the real thing?
its a few sentences about yourself you dont need coaching. People should have done this countless times before getting to Anonās age. If he still needs coaching at his age he probably has a learning disorder and I dont mean that in a rude way.
What training should they need?
Iād say learning to talk is all they really need. The rest is experience.
So as soon as you learn to talk, you can handle every social situation adequately? Thatās news to me.
You may not understand this particular issue, because you never had trouble introducing yourself publicly. But you probably struggled at something else, and donāt you think training would (or did) help you there?
So as soon as you learn to talk, you can handle every social situation adequately? Thatās news to me.
No, they didnāt say that, they said that knowing how to talk is the only prerequisite. The rest comes only with practice, the sooner the better. Anxietyās a bitch, I get it, but you make it manageable by desensitizing yourself to those situations (preferably starting with the low risk ones like introductions), not avoiding them.
UnderpantsWeevilBoth can bring out social anxiety
Generally speaking, socialization is like a muscle. You have to use it to build it.
āNobody should ever have to interact with more than a handful of other people at a timeā is a recipe for building a population of socially anxious people.
Yes, but some people, myself included, find forcibly requiring individuals to introduce themselves in succession to be disingenuous.
other_catI have had to participate in a āEveryone introduce themselvesā like five times at a job Iāve worked at less than a year. I donāt enjoy it, and I donāt think anyone does, but itās also important to know who the people you are working with are. Would I ever do it if I didnāt have to? No way. But I do. And practice has made it easier at least.
Yes, and a lot of shit you have to do socially in life is going to be disingenuous. I hated it, I still hate it, but Iāve also seen it used well as a way to at least ensure everyone has spoken before a discussion group. Itās an icebreaker, itās not supposed to be deep talk, itās supposed to mean thereās a chance that everyone has at least heard each otherās name once before
Yeah, but thereās something about forcing people to do it that just removes the fun from it all.
oce šDonāt you think itās good to train children to be able to talk to strangers and introduce themselves? I know itās stressful but I think it is useful.
Thatās just not how people introduce themselves out in the real world though.
I guess the teachers will just have to make educated guesses based on which students they presume will end up strung out, and then have only those kids practice the introductions.
(But, for real, Iāve encountered this shit in numerous workplaces)
Yeah, and the people who do it in social situations are usually corporate drones.
What do you think is different compared to when you join some new company, training or club and you are asked to present yourself?
MinnesotaGoddamThat happens a lot less than you think. And I try to avoid clubs etc that do that nonsense.
idunnololzDepends on the job but this happens all the time for me because I often have to sit in meetings with customers (b2b company) and so usually we have to introduce ourselves at the start of the meeting.
Maybe I just have a good job.
work is the real world and i have some news
The problem is the lack of structure.
I organize a lot of workshops involving people from experts to executives, where always need an introduction round, and I always give them a structure to follow. Makes the task it easier, but itāll also be much more useful for the group, as weāll focus in the aspects of a person that matter for the context of the workshop.
For a class intro in primary school, it could be:
- name and age
- nickname youād like others to call you
- favorite subject
- favorite hobby / free time activity
I just made this up, but a teacher could probably come up with something even more fitting.
The point is, always give people structure or guidance, youāll get much more out of similar introduction rounds.
Sure but in the real world you will sometimes get this and sometimes get no structure. Itās been about 50/50 for me so far. Being able to do either on the fly is good.
Itād just be a lot less horrible if you donāt have to come up with something to say about yourself. Kids are RUTHLESS and if youāre not quick on your feet, or even if you are, but the thing you say can be taken wrong, you will be bullied for the rest of your time in school over it. Unless you luck out and someone elseās thing is even worse.
Itās not training though, you get thrown into the real thing immediately that decides the rest of your social time at school.
If you were encouraged and made to practice in private before, then I would agree with you.
Is it cruel?
I donāt agree, I think if you force a crying child to say their name ā thatās obviously going too far. But it is important to get kids used to socializing, human beings need other human beings ultimately.
I think if you force a crying child to say their name ā thatās obviously going too far.
iām sorry you experienced that. if itās any consolation, the only times anyone gets forced to do anything at my wifeās program is for safety reasons. like, get out of the burning building! donāt elope from the classroom to the street with busy traffic or the shooting range just oāer yonder! life and death stuff. i want to say teachers have learned better, but i also want to say teachers have seen just that specific bullshit and been appalled by it. yāknow, because theyāre human like you and most of me have empathy.
i do too. I have 3 believable truths 3 unbelievable truths, 3 believable lies, 3 unbelievable lies, 7 āinteresting factsā about me (i used to have 8 but one of them, uh it required me to tell a joke and that does not work at 8 AM so now itās gone. I donāt function 8 AM well before.) and i can pick and choose between my pre-prepped bullshit based on my audience and how awake and healthy i feel.
worst part is i used to do improv so for the longest time i would just wing it and did fine. then they started doing them before coffee. now i gotta copy my bullshit offa my phone onto cue cards if i have one of those things
Iām 44 and I used to hate those too. But there is one fun fact about these. If you go first, you can fill it in as you want and every one will follow your format. Quite funny once you notice this.
Anyway next time I have one of those, Iāll make sure to add āfavorite dinosaurā to it.
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