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JimmyB (he/him)Mar 4

@evacide interested to know if there’s a view in the legality of their use in Europe. Collecting and processing personal data - explicitly including images - requires explicit consent under GDPR legislation.

This kit appears to fail the basic test?

maya_b 🇨🇦Mar 4

@JimmyB

explicit consent is probably/most-definitely included in the T&C's of the glasses themselves - you turn them on, you consent.

GDPR only covers things others own with respect to you.

store loyalty cards even confer consent to the store that you signed up to.

don't sign up.

JimmyB (he/him)Mar 5

@evacide @maya_b yeah - it’s not the wearer I’m thinking of. It’s me - random in the street who is getting their image stored and processed… I am not consenting to that. And it’s the processing specifically which seems to be problematic

maya_b 🇨🇦Mar 5

@JimmyB

ahh yes, that's a GDPR violation (currently anyway), and meta is planning on adding facial recognition to the system which only makes it worse.

though if you have a FB, or another Meta account, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some backdoor wording in the T&Cs there granting information processing.

(e.g. where are they getting your facial tracking info from in the first place?)

JimmyB (he/him)Mar 5

@evacide @maya_b right. And I’ve got a meta account because they bought WhatsApp…

@JimmyB @evacide

Especially since Europe has particularly strict attitudes about recording children.

All of these systems, these ring cameras and license plate readers proliferating everywhere allow women and children to be doxxed and tracked

JimmyB (he/him)Mar 5

@evacide @GhostOnTheHalfShell yeah. I have a big issue with ring cameras too…

Critical Silence Mar 4

@evacide "Great idea, let me help you! Based on Bristol Stool Scale, your stool needs your attention...."
or
"I apologize, I don't have the impression the person did enjoy having sex with you"

I don't see a problem, that's the future? /s

MakerBlock Mar 4

Is it wrong I miss the days of people getting attacked for wearing google glasses?

Theo 🏳️‍⚧️

Mar 4

@evacide Where does my dad keep his Meta Ray-Bans when he's not using them? (rhetorical)

I want to fucking smash them with a sledgehammer.

Kat S Mar 4

@evacide Now I just want to carry an RF noise generator in a pocket, whenever I go out in public.

Dizzy 0069 Stiff Assed Crip

Mar 4

@KatS @evacide Hmmmm… is there a small version of such a device and would that be legal?

@CaptMikeYates @KatS @evacide In the US at least you're forbidden from using *any* device which *intentionally* creates RF noise.

A malfunctioning radio is allowed. A purpose-built jammer is not.

Proceed accordingly.

Don Hawkins - W7DAH Mar 4

@gooba42 @CaptMikeYates @KatS @evacide There are RF signal generators produced by a number of companies including Tektronix, Keysight Technologies, Anritsu, Rohde & Schwarz, and Agilent Technologies. Adapting them for use to intentionally “interfere” / jam legit signals would violate FCC regulations … unless of course you’re big brother “gubbermint” / military. (1/2)

Don Hawkins - W7DAH Mar 4

It would still be intentional & illegal but, laws in America are only enforced against the poor so, if you’re rich & white … 😎

Most of those same companies make Spectrum Analyzers capable of detecting (& locating) those signal sources, too. (2/2)

David J. Atkinson Mar 4

@donhawkins Right. Don’t plan on it being a secret.

Don Hawkins - W7DAH Mar 4

@meltedcheese It would be fun tho … for a minute 😎

David J. Atkinson Mar 4

@CaptMikeYates @KatS @evacide Yes, and no.

Nicole Parsons Mar 4

Isn't it strange that corporations that are actively trying to end all civil rights to privacy, up to & including creepy "Bedrooms & Bathrooms" voyeurism...

...yet refuse to disclose who they finance in a fascist movement
Dark Money is killing democracy

...yet refuse to acknowledge their complicity in the Epstein Files

...yet refuse to divulge their contact with foreign despots

...yet decline to release internal memos about teen suicidal ideation

... yet hide investors identities

@Npars01 @evacide

Obedience for thee and freedom for me

nanowiz Mar 4

@Npars01 @evacide

Blessed are the CEO's

J.A. Machete Mar 4

@evacide everything #Fuckerberg touches, gets ruined and sold to even worse folks.

Edwin Kremer Mar 4

@evacide Great! 😡 Two more companies that I never did any business with have just made pretty darn sure that I never will. The list is getting longer, choices in life simplify.

RRB Mar 4

@evacide feature not a bug

Toni Aittoniemi Mar 4

@evacide Panopticon. This data will be used by an authoritarian government against it’s people before you know it!

maya_b 🇨🇦Mar 4

@gimulnautti

Season 3 of the WestWorld remake

@gimulnautti @evacide Or the inhuman, immortal aristocrats we call "corporations".

AI isn't the competing species that's going to kill us, corporations are.

FossThought Mar 4

@evacide I'm sick of their "you're in control of what data you share" line. No you're not. It's proprietary software. You have no idea what's going on under the hood. All they did was code up some graphics that show options as "off." It still sends everything.

Chad Baker Mar 4

I have a coworker who wears these. I feel like he shouldn't be allowed to ever look at me now.

maya_b 🇨🇦Mar 4

@calbaker

from a non-disclosure perspective, something you and your co-worker are both likely legally bound to with your employer through your employment contract, is a route you can try with your employer.

your coworker is potentially transmitting confidential material outside the company. this is bad for privately held companies, but outright illegal for publicly traded companies
as this could lead to securities violations (insider trading)

I work for a university but yeah, your point stands

@calbaker @evacide

You should feel free to pull out your mobile phone and turn on the camera and start recording and you put it up to his face real close go so what do you think about pervasive surveillance because I’m keeping track of everything you do and say to me just like you are doing to me

xekola Mar 4

If enough people wore Zuckerfuck's spy glasses, it would absurdly serve the expansion of corporate surveillance in the public and private sphere.
Do we really want a society where everybody is willingly wearing corporate monitors, with Waymos on every street, CCTV on every corner, smartphone cameras unwittingly recording from every hand?
Seriously, this is the craziest dystopia unfolding in real time.
Stop. The. Madness.
Boycott this shit and counter-trendify!

Burning Joint USA Mar 4

The wildest part about all of it is that this is the dystopia people are choosing because they are so dumb they go for every new shiny bullshit thing these companies produce. I have yet to see these, but I see that they have sold millions of them, so either they are lying about sales (wouldn't be the first time), or they are literally everywhere already... probably some combo of the two to be honest. As if ring wasn't bad enough. I no longer wear a mask in public just for covid, but for my privacy and so should anybody who cares about this shit. Every camera we have created that has an internet connection is now being employed in the palentir//flock//meta//google//tesla global surveilance scheme. It is not something we should be accepting, but the US court system has done it's best to completely do away with privacy.

xekola Mar 6

@grimacing
Social pressure to conform is a real and inherent shaping force in and of society.

I think it's more useful to try to understand consumption through the lens of advertisement and market-consumer conditioning.

When something becomes trendy enough, it becomes a mass phenomenon.
So it doesn't suffice with individual boycott - we have to campaign hard against this shit, to demonetize it, or as I ad hoc termed it, to "counter-trendify".

john spurling Mar 4

@evacide The thing I really want to know about the Meta Ray Bans is: "Will It Blend?" It would be delightful to get the video from the glasses as they're lowered into the Blendtec and see it abruptly cut off as the mechanized whirring starts.

misha Mar 4

@synec @evacide Yes!! I wonder if those flock cams will blend too!

Neil Hopkins Mar 4

@evacide @Faintdreams

ThePiper Mar 4

@evacide Just as a matter of interest, the illegal gold miners in South Africa and Zimbabwe are referred to a zama zamas.

Richard Hendricks Mar 4

@evacide brb, upgrading my foil hat to a crown of ultra bright IR LEDs to fuck up any cameras.

@evacide "What if they see me naked?" is most people's first impulse but I think "What if they see me in a moment of psychological vulnerability and feed that back to the inhuman algorithmic predators they own to seize on that moment to exploit or harm me?" is a bigger concern of mine.

cwicseolfor Mar 4

@gooba42 Depending on the *public perception of* your body’s suitability for exploitation, they can be the same concern. Mostly adding this to clarify that it’s not always a lack of imagination at play when that’s what people mention.

@cwicseolfor Agreed, people just don't generally catch on right away that you can be naked without being unclothed.

@evacide We're not going to get any traction on this for real until we can trigger people's visceral "there's a predator nearby" response to these devices and machinations.

Our instincts are good for this stuff, they just don't recognize this latest generation of dangerous predators.

@gooba42 @evacide

Epstein eyeware

FurballsNHairballs Mar 4

@evacide
Even more reason to.hate and despise facebook and it's minions

Really Lazy Bear

Mar 4

@evacide I'd snap this fancy crap in half, crush it and throw it in the ocean. The last thing a worker would see is my big paws lol.

Idk. This piece of shit is trash. I'd rather get myself some old-fashioned glasses that do one job, see better. No need for fancy crap if some weirdo sees what I do in my life.

EpstAIn eyeware

Let everybody know who’s side you’re own by wearing them