'Pay to remove ads' is such an awful insidious now common phrase. Give us money or else we'll do this to you. If you don't pay us, we will control your experience. We will force ourselves upon you unless you meet our demands. Modern day protection racket.
@TheBreadmonkey The only winning move is not to play.
@TheBreadmonkey You're not wrong. I'm glad ad blockers and VPN's are still effective, but who knows for how long?

@TheBreadmonkey Most of the time it really means “pay to stop us tracking and profiling you for ads” which is horrendous. I’m a lot more relaxed with the idea of being shown generic ads than targeted ads.

Again, I’m convinced that the ads don’t actually work to make people buy things and that this whole industry’s business case is built on sand.

@TheBreadmonkey “Free swimming pool! (Pay to remove leeches)”
@Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey Think it’s a legally grey area too.
@BenCotterill @TheBreadmonkey I have so many opinions on this, but best not to get into it as I sometimes get to charge for them.

@Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
Pearl & Dean, where are you when we need you?

I miss knowing there’s an excellent curry house, minutes from the cinema.

@blabberlicious @TheBreadmonkey papa papa papa papapa papa papa papa papa… PA!
@Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
Papa,Pa PaaaaaaahhhhHHHHHHHH……zoink?
@blabberlicious @TheBreadmonkey You say papapa I say papapa.
@blabberlicious @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
rofl the ALT text bot has grabbed the text strip in the middle of the card that says "BRITISH BOARD OF FILM CENSORS" over and over
@calcius @TheBreadmonkey @Nickiquote @blabberlicious Huh. Almost as if "AI" doesn't work or something.
@blabberlicious @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey P&D are still around, though for some reason the Curry houses stopped advertising at the pictures

@davidbcohen @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
I live in Tooting, where the film Stars advertise in the Windows of the curry houses.

Pearl and Dean don’t get a look in.

@blabberlicious @davidbcohen @Nickiquote

"I simply cannot get enough of the tarka dhal down at Spice Village, it is well nice"

- Roger Moore

@TheBreadmonkey @blabberlicious @davidbcohen @Nickiquote 'You shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet'

- Winston Churchill

@TazPoltorak @TheBreadmonkey @blabberlicious @davidbcohen @Nickiquote

"Democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried, but I prefer my stomach to be ruled by Spice Village"

- Winston Churchill

@benroyce @TheBreadmonkey @blabberlicious @davidbcohen @Nickiquote "The ballot is stronger than the bullet and vindaloo is stronger than bhuna. "

- Abraham Lincoln

@benroyce @TheBreadmonkey @blabberlicious @davidbcohen @Nickiquote "Politics is not an exact science but baking is."
- Otto Von Bismarck

@TazPoltorak @TheBreadmonkey @blabberlicious @davidbcohen @Nickiquote

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask for the Goan Chicken Vindaloo

From Spice Village"

-John F. Kennedy

@benroyce @TazPoltorak @TheBreadmonkey @blabberlicious @Nickiquote “We are the Empress of India, and we highly favour both the Tea from Assam and the Chicken Jalfrezi from Spice Village.” - Queen Victoria

@benroyce @TazPoltorak @TheBreadmonkey @blabberlicious @Nickiquote

“It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a Spice Village Lamb Bhuna on a Saturday night” - Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice

@davidbcohen @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
The cocktails are wicked (literally)

Restaurant Trend-watch:
1) Fiercely illuminated tables made of perspex
2) Water cascading down walls
3) Gold Bling
4) Jeoff Koons Knock off Statues (see pic)*

* Haven't the courage to mention some of Koons' other 'artworks'. Don't want to lose my curry mile discount.

@davidbcohen @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
This lad had to put up a 1000 piece chandelier, because the entrance was looking too underdressed.

I went back yesterday and he still hadn't finished.

@davidbcohen @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
Really annoyed, I had another window with Sadiq Khan, which I can’t find. His quote was spectacularly low key. Something like:

"I always get the Kachori"
- Sadiq Khan - London Mayor

Dam you Statham, and you obsequious plaudits. Get a grip, man.

@blabberlicious @davidbcohen @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey

The longest word in that ad is 7 letters. I feel like I'm losing my mind.

@stevegis_ssg @blabberlicious @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey The Statham normally just talks with kicks and punches, that’s why.
@davidbcohen @stevegis_ssg @blabberlicious @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey He'll punch you in the throat, much like the Jalfrezi at Spice Village.
@Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey
Also, I’d accept ads if they had an organist playing show tunes between the videos.
@Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey the worst part is they don't actually promise to stop tracking you, so my guess is it's more "pay us and you won't see the ads, but we will absolutely still track you to sell your data"
@TheBreadmonkey it's also usually followed by "pay us more to remove the ads we put back in"
@TheBreadmonkey do you feel the same about paywalls? at least ads can be usually stripped with adblock...

@whitequark Perfectly happy with the LWN paywall, for example. I wish our local newspaper had a “no ads but if you don't pay you only see articles that are at least a month old” policy. I'd subscribe instantly.

Instead there's only a “pay not to get nagged to pay”. You'll still see ads and get tracked! Why would anyone pay for this?! @TheBreadmonkey

@TheBreadmonkey

that's real a noice ad-free experience youse got dere. be a shame if anything happened to it.

@saltywizard @TheBreadmonkey Hahaha came here to type exactly this!
@TheBreadmonkey I remember when Y*utu8e timed an ad frenzy, followed by offering premium saying "no ads" for £9.99 and thinking "...yet". As I remember it, they only took a year or 2 to start " premium" ads.
@TheBreadmonkey I recently read the terms and conditions on the pay to not see ads thing on a weather site and they were like here is how we will collect your info and I was like, I thought I was paying you off in lieu of giving you my info, so this whole idea is a nope
@TheBreadmonkey
I have many years of experience ignoring ads 👍

@TheBreadmonkey In at lot of cases they remove the ads, but keep the tracking. So I just keep the blocking and don't pay.

I block the ads to block the internet wide tracking of my activity, not to hurt the site. If they used their own ad servers (which they can, its 2005 tech), then the ads wouldn't be blocked.

The BIG sites could easily do that, they already have ad sales people, might be harder for smaller operations.

@TheBreadmonkey

When did capitalism become extortion?

When they removed all competition buying, bribing or even a hostile overthrow.

@SCALETHEORY @TheBreadmonkey
Ad blockers only deal with the superficial stuff. Google has been using centralised fonts as trackers since 2010 and as a result I'm pretty wary of the google webp image format.
EFF.org has a lot of good articles about steps you can take to protect your privacy.

@Theriac @TheBreadmonkey

Thanks for reference, EFF. Never used google anything since they began 98ish and couldn't remove one of their apps I downloaded. Never used my real name or any real data, (wrong dates, numbers, etc) so they can have what ever they want for their skewed data.

I used a VPN, doesn't let you on some sites in this now dystopian internet they're killing with greed.
If they were good people we could have a better internet and they'd actually make even more than they are.

@SCALETHEORY @TheBreadmonkey capitalism was always extortion. It requires capitalists who get to tell everyone else what to do, and laborers who can't survive unless we do exactly what they tell us. That's the system in a nutshell how it always was, it never "became" extortion

@raphaelmorgan @TheBreadmonkey

"capitalism was always extortion."

When capitalist had competition lacking price fixing, if they extorted, they went bankrupt with United principal/value based sentiment.

@SCALETHEORY @TheBreadmonkey what happened when someone didn't have capital and didn't want to play the game? Could they simply exist without working for a boss? Or were they forced to sell their labor to survive?

@raphaelmorgan @TheBreadmonkey

That sounds very lazy. Even in a no barter, money-less society... if you don't contribute to society, you get no benefits, like food, housing, anything as laziness isn't accepted. Rich people, who F everything up, are lazy getting others to do everything for them.

@SCALETHEORY I've seen evidence that disabled people, children, and the elderly have actually been taken care of in previous societies regardless of ability to "contribute". Laziness is a concept made up to justify ableism and the colonization of better systems.

Also, if it weren't for capitalism, we could decide to try roughing it and doing everything ourselves--but if I try to build shelter and grow food on land I don't have the capital to acquire, the cops rip it up at best

@SCALETHEORY anyway, I should probably stop wasting my time arguing with boot-lickers. We're not going back to the capitalism you love where everyone suffers except for you and people richer than you. It will always devolve into fascism, the targets of that privilege will always shrink not to include you. If you don't like fascism, maybe you should settle for a post-capitalism society

@raphaelmorgan

" boot-lickers" LOL
Never said I likes capitalism, it sucks IMO.
I just made a point and it is a factual one.
BYE! or TA TA

@raphaelmorgan
"It requires capitalists who get to tell everyone else what to do"

But we know this when we begin, it's the sacrifice we take wanting the funds in return. Even if we do jobs we like, we will always be told what and HOW to do something if we're not the "expert."

On the other hand...

Extortion is - obtaining benefit from an individual or group through coercion, usually by threatening them with future psychological or physical harm.

No fed money, as you're blue, ICEIS kills

@SCALETHEORY "obtaining benefit from an individual or group through coercion, usually by threatening them with future psychological or physical harm"
I have to work a job or I will either starve or just keep piling on debt until I can't find somewhere to live anymore. If I choose not to play their game, I'm unable to eat or sleep without cops bothering me. How is that not a threat? If we weren't being coerced with the threat of future physical AND psychological harm, capitalism wouldn't work
@TheBreadmonkey It is what business became when the realization hit that capitalism was a grievously flawed philosophy
@TheBreadmonkey
Ad free YouTube is $13.10/month.
@TheBreadmonkey tbh the business model of the internet needs to change. I’d prefer p2p micropayments for articles/video/stuff that enables creators to get paid while removing vast piles of shit in the middle.

A different internet is possible but it’s a pretty underground concept as everyone sees the internet as ‘free’ when it’s a model paid for from surveillance.

Fuck those pop ups though!