BenMar 1
'Pay to remove ads' is such an awful insidious now common phrase. Give us money or else we'll do this to you. If you don't pay us, we will control your experience. We will force ourselves upon you unless you meet our demands. Modern day protection racket.
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@TheBreadmonkey

When did capitalism become extortion?

When they removed all competition buying, bribing or even a hostile overthrow.

Mar 1 at 3:43pmWeb
Show threadTheriacMar 1
@SCALETHEORY @TheBreadmonkey
Ad blockers only deal with the superficial stuff. Google has been using centralised fonts as trackers since 2010 and as a result I'm pretty wary of the google webp image format.
EFF.org has a lot of good articles about steps you can take to protect your privacy.
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@Theriac @TheBreadmonkey

Thanks for reference, EFF. Never used google anything since they began 98ish and couldn't remove one of their apps I downloaded. Never used my real name or any real data, (wrong dates, numbers, etc) so they can have what ever they want for their skewed data.

I used a VPN, doesn't let you on some sites in this now dystopian internet they're killing with greed.
If they were good people we could have a better internet and they'd actually make even more than they are.

Show threadMorgan ⚧️Mar 1
@SCALETHEORY @TheBreadmonkey capitalism was always extortion. It requires capitalists who get to tell everyone else what to do, and laborers who can't survive unless we do exactly what they tell us. That's the system in a nutshell how it always was, it never "became" extortion
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@raphaelmorgan @TheBreadmonkey

"capitalism was always extortion."

When capitalist had competition lacking price fixing, if they extorted, they went bankrupt with United principal/value based sentiment.

Show threadMorgan ⚧️Mar 2
@SCALETHEORY @TheBreadmonkey what happened when someone didn't have capital and didn't want to play the game? Could they simply exist without working for a boss? Or were they forced to sell their labor to survive?
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@raphaelmorgan @TheBreadmonkey

That sounds very lazy. Even in a no barter, money-less society... if you don't contribute to society, you get no benefits, like food, housing, anything as laziness isn't accepted. Rich people, who F everything up, are lazy getting others to do everything for them.

Show threadMorgan ⚧️Mar 5

@SCALETHEORY I've seen evidence that disabled people, children, and the elderly have actually been taken care of in previous societies regardless of ability to "contribute". Laziness is a concept made up to justify ableism and the colonization of better systems.

Also, if it weren't for capitalism, we could decide to try roughing it and doing everything ourselves--but if I try to build shelter and grow food on land I don't have the capital to acquire, the cops rip it up at best

Show threadMorgan ⚧️Mar 5
@SCALETHEORY anyway, I should probably stop wasting my time arguing with boot-lickers. We're not going back to the capitalism you love where everyone suffers except for you and people richer than you. It will always devolve into fascism, the targets of that privilege will always shrink not to include you. If you don't like fascism, maybe you should settle for a post-capitalism society
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@raphaelmorgan

" boot-lickers" LOL
Never said I likes capitalism, it sucks IMO.
I just made a point and it is a factual one.
BYE! or TA TA

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@raphaelmorgan
"It requires capitalists who get to tell everyone else what to do"

But we know this when we begin, it's the sacrifice we take wanting the funds in return. Even if we do jobs we like, we will always be told what and HOW to do something if we're not the "expert."

On the other hand...

Extortion is - obtaining benefit from an individual or group through coercion, usually by threatening them with future psychological or physical harm.

No fed money, as you're blue, ICEIS kills

Show threadMorgan ⚧️Mar 5
@SCALETHEORY "obtaining benefit from an individual or group through coercion, usually by threatening them with future psychological or physical harm"
I have to work a job or I will either starve or just keep piling on debt until I can't find somewhere to live anymore. If I choose not to play their game, I'm unable to eat or sleep without cops bothering me. How is that not a threat? If we weren't being coerced with the threat of future physical AND psychological harm, capitalism wouldn't work