Mastodawn

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http://libraryqxxiqakubqv3dc2bend2koqsndbwox2johfywcatxie26bsad.onion/library/anark-the-state-is-counter-revolutionary

@Wilson6923

No I will not be marxist leninist I'm an anarchist for these reasons and more:

[Anark - The State Is Counter Revoultionary]

Text Essay - Onion Address [1]
Text Essay - Clearweb Mirror [2]
Video Essay - YouTube [3]

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[2]
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anark-the-state-is-counter-revolutionary

[3]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTwxpTyGUOI

#Anarchism #AnarchoCommunism #MarxismLeninism

@ambiguous_yelp well in the spirit of sharing these are some (along with the work of the people I shared in the article) of the reasons I am a Marxist Leninist. #MarxistLeninist #MarxismLeninism

#MarxismLeninism #Anarchism #Leftist #AntiCapitalism

@Wilson6923

While your book collection here has interesting sounding titles it isnt an argument, your article says "be marxist leninist" and yet doesn't provide any reasoning that couldn't also apply to "be anarchist" - The examples you give are things anarchists talk about too.

I do agree that we need to move beyond the term leftist its needlessly confusing and is basically a negative definition things we are against rather than what we are for, and as "the left" grows the old factions are reigniting and they are not trivial differences, to paint over them with a broad brush like "anticapitalist" or "leftist" is just insulting to those of us who have deep principled opposition to eachother

@ambiguous_yelp I wans’t trying to argue, I thought we were sharing, so thats what i did, my hope in writing that was to get people to see and hopefully peak their interest in Marxism Leninism as the tool that every revolutionary peoples government currently active demonstrates to varying degrees what a Dictatorship of the Proletariat is capable of.

Heil Seitan

@ambiguous_yelp I did not know that Anarchists approved of Dictatorships as one of the pieces you sent me clearly says in the title that states are counter revolutionary. A thing can’t be both revolutionary and counterrevolutionary.

@Wilson6923 They are all the same piece there's a text and video essay that just adds b roll and music and theres a URL pointing to a clear web server and an onion server with the same content

Obviously I wasn't talking about that example: China building solar and railways isn't an excuse to censor lgbt stuff or disappear or brutalise political dissidents nor to implement bedtime laws or track everyone's location in real time.

If I'm a perfectionist for not wanting to follow in the footsteps of authoritarians then so be it, I'd rather die.

#Tor #CCP #Solar #Censorship

@ambiguous_yelp you don't think people on the Epstein files should be punished swiftly and severely? And how would you do such a thing without the power to do so?

@Wilson6923 Everyone has power, what I am against is authority, no one should have the authority to decide for the collective how and when they should be punished - that decision belongs to everyone affected

@ambiguous_yelp so a Dictatorship of the Proletariat if you will?

or put another way Whole Process peoples democracy?

#MarxismLeninism #Trotsky

@Wilson6923 Centralization of the military creates power hierarchies which subverts democracy

"The party is not justified in every moment by the formal principle of a workers democracy despite temporary vacillations of the working class" - Trotsky.

If lenin was so pro people power what happened to the factory worker councils?

@ambiguous_yelp well, Trotsky was a useful idiot for fascism(best case) straight up fascist(I believe) his entire life so if your listening to him as a counter argument to Marxism Leninism and the best you can come up with to disenfranchise all of the good works being done today by AES nations then I have to assume you don’t have principle’s at all and are just a wrecker. Out solely to confuse, demoralize, and interfere with people’s liberation. Good luck with that moving forward.

#MarxismLeninism #Capitalism

@Wilson6923

You sound like a capitalist marvelling at what has been created under capitalism. But the ends never justify the means. Please tell everyone how the state will "wither away"

@ambiguous_yelp no I’m a Marxist Leninist understanding what other Marxist Leninists have managed to accomplish underneath a global capitalist umbrella led by pedophiles. I also understand what those self same people will be able to accomplish when we finally defeat the parasites in charge of global capitalism. I’m embarrassed by people who still think they can defeat these monsters without any real power to back them up. My hope is they are still children being seduced by “third way” reformism that will always lead to the same structures of power being in place.

#Anarchism #Marxism #MarxismLeninism

@Wilson6923 I would turn that back at you: that hierarchies of any kind are self sustaining bc every authority needs to justify and maintain itself by any means possible in order to achieve its goals and special interests - this immediately creates a rift between those at the top and those at the bottom, it creates new class divides

@ambiguous_yelp has that borne out under the Dictatorships of the Proletariat we currently see, and follow up, is raising 800 MILLION people out of abject poverty and eliminating it, something that could be done without a People’s government in place? And if so, how?

#MarxismLeninism #Anarchism

@Wilson6923 Yes it has borne out. The ends don't justify the means, just because something hasn't been done doesn't make it impossible. Once marxism leninism was an idea and it battled against the stream to make it a reality, anarchism faces similar and additional cultural and institutional hurdles.

The police for example have job security under a socialist state but have no place in an anarchist society - existing methods of control schools prisons and militaries can continue their function uninterrupted under a "socialist" state

"Take away from an organ its function and either the organ dies or the function is re-established... A police force where there are no crimes to solve or criminals to apprehend, will invent both, or cease to exist" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc7QVofykyA

Why Anarchists stop being Anarchists

YouTube

@ambiguous_yelp so no. You could have just said no. The rest makes you look silly.

@Wilson6923 If I need to spell out examples for you how "socialist" states have oppressed people then you are either ignorant or so dogmatic that you see these as ends justified means

But here some are anyway:

Leninist USSR | The State is Counter Revolutionary (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwU3STgBknQ

Maoist China | The State is Counter Revolutionary (Part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycZYRSpSIPw

#MarxismLeninism

Leninist USSR | The State is Counter Revolutionary (Part 2)

YouTube

@ambiguous_yelp are you just that dudes alt? You have literally nothing to say that isn’t that dude. Also wasn’t what I asked, and you know it. Do better or be gone.

@Wilson6923 The videos are laden with examples of "socialist" state oppression. To reiterate them would be a waste of both our time when its packaged so neatly here

#MarxismLeninism

@ambiguous_yelp I don’t use YouTube (fuck google) and those don’t answer my original question about lifting people out of poverty and eliminating it. Not to mention I would probably question every single “source” you use in said videos as illegitimate.

#Anarchism #TheAnarchistLibrary #YouTube #PeerTube

@Wilson6923 These youtube video parts are parts of the same essay I listed earlier and all the same words can be found on The Anarchist Library web site URL I posted above (including the onion address for the anarchist library)

I also wish they would post to PeerTube instead I think that posting to youtube actually hurts anarchism and is another form of ends justify the means thinking

@ambiguous_yelp look, I know that guy that you keep referencing from Twitter 2020 and if all of his very weak arguments against the Soviet Union backed up by bourgeois intelligencia are the same as they were then then these 4 books cover why those arguments are NOT justifications for losing out on all the good that the Soviet Union did for its peoples and Marxist Leninist states do today again under the capitalist umbrella held up by pedophiles and their enablers.

@Wilson6923 Sure Ill try and give them a read if I can find them

@ambiguous_yelp Iskra books has a free pdf of their translation of Stalin a history and critique of a black legend.