lol

@ShadowJonathan

It's not untrue. All imperial / customery units are defined by metric standards. Even in the US πŸ˜ŒπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

@ShadowJonathan now this is the kind of antifascism we need more of 
@ShadowJonathan that's a bit harsh....
@ShadowJonathan @leyrer May the force be with you.
@SveDe
And may it only be expressed in newtons.
@ShadowJonathan @leyrer
@ShadowJonathan brb gonna go fork and create FreedomAssistant where only imperial units are used and metric is deprecated.
#homeassistant #homeautomation
@paco @ShadowJonathan while you are doing that, you could also rename them to freedom units. πŸ˜‚
@paco @ShadowJonathan Will it support measuring in both kilofeet and milli-inches?
@snowfox Data will be stored in drossbytes. Bandwidth in pecks per fortnight.
@ShadowJonathan
@snowfox @paco @ShadowJonathan thinking about the engineering course I took where I had to use "kilopound" or "kip" with a straight face

@tarix29 @paco @ShadowJonathan I was thinking of units for resistance (ohms/1000 feet) and resistivity (ohm-cmil/ft β€” it has factors of 12 and 1000 and Ο€!). But upon looking that up I came across this: https://archive.org/details/copperwiretables100unit/page/3/mode/1up

Ohm-pounds per square mile! I'm not even sure how to think about that.

(Edit: After puzzling over it: It's Ohm-(cross-sectional area)/(wire length), where CSA is in pounds/mile. So just as Ξ©mΒ²/m cancels out to Ξ©m, the miles multiply into square miles, but it's the area of an imaginary square whose side length is the length of the wire.)

@paco @ShadowJonathan us customary isn't deprecated, just the imperial alias (which was wrong, since imperial and us customary are not the same thing)
@paco @ShadowJonathan the primary difference is that british imperial fluid ounces are roughly 4% smaller than us customary fluid ounces
@paco @ShadowJonathan in both the gallon is the base unit but british imperial defines the gallon as the volume of 10lbs of water (nowadays defined precisely in liters) and equal to 160 fl oz, while us customary defines the gallon as 231inΒ³ and equal to 128 fl oz (thus while imperial fl oz are smaller than us fl oz, imperial pints/quarts/gallons are larger than in the us)
@leo @paco @ShadowJonathan And get that wrong and your plane can run out of fuel. Stupid units kill people.

@leo and this blew my mind. I had no idea how these things were defined. This is ridiculous. TIL

@ShadowJonathan

@leo It was a shitpost, but thanks for the explanation. For my part, I lived in Europe for a decade. Metric was obviously sensible and easier to use, so I learned to use it a lot. Especially for cooking. I still use Fahrenheit, but other than that, metric is great.
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@ShadowJonathan Vulgar time is abolished for civil usage!

@ShadowJonathan Cool.

sighs. I hate my country so damn much. I really wish the US would convert as needing to convert back and forth SUCKS and it is why I use imperial for everything except computer monitoring stats on my home network, as all that is self contained and I don't need to convert much.
But even if we switch back over to a Democrat based congress and executive branch and introduced legislation to convert over to metric. There is ZERO chance of this happening without a lawsuit that goes right up to the SCOTUS who will continue to promote "freedom units" or whatever Republicans want to call it this week.
As things go there are bigger issues with the current slide into fascism in this country to worry about so....yeah. Whatever.

@KellicTiger The US *is* metric. It's taught in schools. It's on every food and other product package by law. Almost every device I've ever used has metric unit options.

You want the government to force everyone to use metric, but you complain about fascism?

@sconient @KellicTiger

The USA is an original signatory of the Treaty of the Meter. The inch and the pound have been defined in terms of the meter and the kilogram since the Lincoln administration (as a resolution to a dispute with the British Board of Trade that started when the Houses of Parliament caught fire, resulting in damage to the British primary standards, which were stored in the basement). The metric system is literally the only legal system of measurement in the USA, and every President from Washington to, I think, Taft addressed Congress on the topic of ending the confusing non-system of β€œcustomary units”.

@ShadowJonathan
Sounds like a quite user-hostile move on Home Assistant's part.
I think imperial units are silly, but I will defend your right to use them.
@ShadowJonathan use the new republic unit system instead
@ShadowJonathan
Luckily (?), the United States doesn't use Imperial units. We use US Customary units.
@ShadowJonathan *sad stormtrooper noises*

@ShadowJonathan

Honestly, confusing Americans through forced use of the metric system might be the best way that the world can retaliate against MAGA America.

@ShadowJonathan
Only 8 minutes ago... 
@ShadowJonathan Well, I guess that's it then.
should be β€œ480 seconds ago”. the second is the SI unit of time. legacy units like minutes and hours are tolerated but their use is not encouraged.